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Offline (Male) retep998
Posted on: March 25, 2010, 11:38:44 PM

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http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement
This is the end of us all.

Here are some key points
*It's international
*Guilty until proven innocent
*Companies and governments can completely invade your privacy on the slightest suspicion without a warrant
*There's no legal due process. Once you are charged, you're screwed since you can't defend yourself.
*DRM protected media would not be legally playable with free software, so no longer can you play DRM-protected games on linux, nor Wine. So if you don't want to buy windows, then you can't play games you bought legitly.
*Every single little nub who makes a clone using gm and ripped graphics can be prosecuted, and that nub can't do jack shit about it. There goes our future coders...
*If you play one of those clones, you broke the law.
*If you copy a track off a cd onto your mp3 player, you broke the law.
*If you lend your friend a cd or a dvd, you broke the law
*If you do ANYTHING with your digital media, except listen to/watch/play it as it is, you are screwed.

It's not too late to stop them!
Petition your local representative!
Become an objectivist! (Go read some Ayn Rand)
Resist government regulations!
Support laissez-faire capitalism!
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Offline (Unknown gender) freezway
Reply #1 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 01:02:11 AM

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To the irc's! (nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana LINUX!)
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Reply #2 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 01:11:06 AM

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yeah um not everyone lives in the us/uk, care to mention what region this is
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Offline (Unknown gender) The 11th plague of Egypt
Reply #3 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 05:04:12 AM
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yeah um not everyone lives in the us/uk, care to mention what region this is
*It's international
That's the point. It's a secret trading agreement on a worldwide scale.
It's an anti-democratic project which is avoiding public scrutiny.

This is not the new DMCA, it's ten times worse.

Here are some alternative download links. The Pirate Bay is tracked.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/24/1214239/Full-ACTA-Leak-Online?art_pos=1

The EU parliament already rejected it, but it's still being negotiated.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/10/1449259/EU-Parliament-Rejects-ACTA-In-a-663-To-13-Vote
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Reply #4 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 08:24:47 AM

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I hope that Obama keeps that stance on internet privacy he told everyone he had during elections.
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Reply #5 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 09:11:53 AM

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1) This is nothing new. The government already has such capabilities from the 9/11 terrorist attack rush legislations. They can suspect you of being a terrorist without evidence, and then essentially make you disappear, where you can undergo tortures (no Habeus Corpus). I don't see why they don't just define piracy as an act of terrorism, rather than rewriting the whole text.

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I hope that Obama keeps that stance on internet privacy he told everyone he had during elections.
Just like all the other promises he's kept from election time.
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Reply #7 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 11:01:28 AM
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ACTA is the single scariest piece of legislation ever devised.

My country's Parliament (UK) doesn't even get to decide whether it is implemented or not. The decision is taken by EU bodies which are unelected, undemocratic and behind closed doors.

I was going to write to my MEP (even though the European Parliament has no power over it) but they've already passed a near-unanimous resolution saying they don't like it very much. But that isn't binding or anything, it won't stop it.

The hilarious part is that it won't actually hinder committed pirates who always download stuff. It'll just reduce freedom for the rest of us, like the DMCA did in the US.
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Offline (Male) retep998
Reply #8 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 05:38:03 PM

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The hilarious part is that it won't actually hinder committed pirates who always download stuff. It'll just reduce freedom for the rest of us, like the DMCA did in the US.
It's not hilarious. The whole point of the ACTA is to restrict our freedom. Piracy is only a coverup act, just like the other laws the government does.
Like, a guy says something horrible. The government censors that saying that it was so horrible, so the people are fine with it. But then the government censors people who talk about the corruption of the government, but the government doesn't like them so they censor them. If the people complain about that, the government uses that first guy as an excuse, thereby reducing the complaints. Soon, they'll censor every single thing they don't like.
There is no such thing as partial freedom.
Either you are free,
or you are not free.
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Reply #9 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 06:10:42 PM

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Yeah, because all governments want to do is restrict freedom. Piracy is just an excuse.
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Reply #10 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 08:20:59 PM

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Yeah, because all governments want to do is restrict freedom. Piracy is just an excuse.
but not the US because we are AMERICAN
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Offline (Male) retep998
Reply #11 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 08:43:45 PM

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Yeah, because all governments want to do is restrict freedom. Piracy is just an excuse.
but not the US because we are AMERICAN
Come again?
Just because we are free relative to the peepz in europe,
does not mean we are free in absolute terms.
The US has it's share of freedom-restricting measures.
Just take a look at...
nearly all of the US budget!
The patriot act, the DMCA, a whole bunch of laws and loopholes which give the government the right to go against your rights.
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Reply #12 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 09:09:30 PM

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Just because we are free relative to the peepz in europe,
does not mean we are free in absolute terms.
Woah, woah, woah. I thought:
There is no such thing as partial freedom.
Either you are free,
or you are not free.
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Offline (Male) retep998
Reply #13 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 09:32:17 PM

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Just because we are free relative to the peepz in europe,
does not mean we are free in absolute terms.
Woah, woah, woah. I thought:
There is no such thing as partial freedom.
Either you are free,
or you are not free.
Ah yes.
There's 2 kinds of freedom:
Absolute Freedom which we got close to in the early years of the US, but we've been receding from ever since. Here freedom is a right.
Illusionary freedom, when you have some freedom, to keep you from rebelling while the government trains you to accept less freedom, until you are no longer free. Here freedom is a privilege.

But regardless of semantics, action should be taken to stop the government from further reducing the little freedom we have.
TO ACTION FELLOW OBJECTIVISTS!!!
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Offline (Male) Rusky
Reply #14 Posted on: March 27, 2010, 09:38:14 PM

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Yep, because that's the plan of governments everywhere.
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