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Offline (Male) hpg678
Posted on: October 03, 2017, 04:39:15 AM

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Came across an interesting article about a rise in LINUX and MACOS  Desktop sales. Check it out here.

Another has to do with Microsoft claiming to 'love' Linux. read that one here

Interesting indeed.
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Reply #1 Posted on: October 03, 2017, 02:34:07 PM

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Apparently you can develop for Linux using Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition. It does seem odd that a big company like Microsoft pretends to like the idea of there being a competitor that is free and open source.
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Reply #2 Posted on: October 03, 2017, 06:41:13 PM

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That's why it sparked my interest. Suddenly embracing Linux and the idea of Open Source is nothing short of a lie but to think they would actually do it blantantly in front of you face is quite disturbing. How could they suddenly want to embrace their competitor. They are using the oldest trick in book and I hope that other OpenSource companies don't be fooled by their methods and money.

Perhaps Microsoft is starting to see the writing on the wall of their impeding doom.

As for developing for Linux using Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition, I was not aware. Interesting.
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Reply #3 Posted on: October 03, 2017, 11:58:35 PM

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As for developing for Linux using Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition, I was not aware. Interesting.

I haven't actually tried it but all I think it is, is an IDE. You obviously can't go using the Windows API in your Linux code, (although that would actually be pretty cool if you could do that).

I think Microsoft is far from its doom, though. I mean, they still hold the vast majority of the desktop market share. Not to mention XBBox One is roughly about as popular as PS4. Windows Phone may be a dying product, but that won't effect Microsoft much considering it has been that way ever since Windows Phone became a thing.
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Reply #4 Posted on: October 04, 2017, 03:33:19 AM

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With the billions of dollars they have at their disposal, Microsoft have to resources to develop teams of 'experts' to project their business in the future. If they made, let's say for 10 million a year, they expect to keep that figure and more regularly. The slightest deviation and they panic.

This year in August the Nintendo Switch beat them. Read the article here

This as well as a slight increase in Linux and Mac Desktops sales was a major upset to them. I believe this has to do with 2 major changes.
  • increased knowledge and disgust of Microsoft business practices
  • Big companies turning to Linux by way of point 1.
This is evident in this another article mentioning 50 Big Companies that Use LINUX.


This was indeed mind-blowing and very informative. Linux has so much influence on our lives we are not aware of. Microsoft knows though, so now they want to co-exist with Linux and Opensource because their goal is to control the market so they can get even more rich at the expense of the user.

So how does this affect us as developers. Don't be surprised if in the sometime future Microsoft announces that one of their products will become opensource in an attempt to hold onto developers. More main-stream developers will soon start developing for LINUX because even more companies will use LINUX and they will need to provide for them. As that happens the small man will then get that added support they need.

"And when that happens the Microsoft will be destroyed.............BAAAAHHHHHAAAAAA! :dance: :dance: (evil manical laugh!)"

But in all seriousness, Microsoft has some shitty and devious business practices which I cannot agree with and that's why I am so against WINDOWS and their other products. Take their EULA for instance. OK so I'm leasing their product. All of that is fine but to say I have to buy a separate license for each of my computers which I have to renew every year is absolutely ludicrous and evil. Not only that, but after spending so much money, it doesn't function properly.

Lastly I want to share with you a link to another article that is supposed to based on Security Vulnerabilities. The article would have you believe,,,(ha! Ha! :ughh: ) that LINUX and ANDROID is more unsecure WINDOWS. Mind you, Space Stations and The U.S Department of Defense uses LINUX. Even my latest experiences prove without a doubt that WINDOWS is crap compared to LINUX. Check my other post "How Windows Sucks or am I just Unlucky" to know more.

However, with everything said, it all boils down to your choice. If that's what's you're comfortable with, by all means go ahead and develop for it. I really hope that you make it in your endeavours. (Y)   However as a developer, wouldn't it be more profitable to get into a market that building up and cries out for support than that which is so flooded as it is, to the point of soon burst?
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Reply #5 Posted on: October 04, 2017, 09:02:35 PM

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Visual Studio 2017 Community is apparently open source according to this page:

https://www.visualstudio.com/downloads/

"Visual Studio Community 2017
Free, fully-featured IDE for students, open-source and individual developers"
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Reply #6 Posted on: October 04, 2017, 10:23:20 PM
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Pretty sure that's just a non-oxford comma. "Open-source" modifies developers, not Visual Studio.
Unless you were trolling and I missed it.
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Reply #7 Posted on: October 05, 2017, 01:49:31 AM

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I wasn't trolling. Yeah I see what you're saying. I don't know what I was thinking...
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Reply #8 Posted on: October 05, 2017, 01:55:11 AM

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@hpg678 I can't relate to all this hate on Microsoft. I reserve my hatred for Apple, personally.
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Reply #9 Posted on: October 05, 2017, 07:10:33 AM

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@hpg678 I can't relate to all this hate on Microsoft. I reserve my hatred for Apple, personally.

I'd be interested in knowing your issues on Apple. I have mine too but that will be for another topic. I don't have a Mac but i have tried emulators like FUSION and lately one called SHEEPSHAVER, which allows you run Mac OS9 on the PC. I believe one may be able to install OSX but I never got around to try. Besides I don't own any Mac OS disks. I owe 3, only 3 Mac-related disks, demos from a past magazine named MACADDICT. Not sure if it still exists though. Even back then the magazine was expensive, $25.00BD which would be $14.00US depending.

In fact I took some pics so you may get to see what they looked like back. I'm talking about in 1996 to the last one I bought in 1998.

All of this nostalgia have thus prompted me to see if I can get them mounted in LINUX if such a thing is possible. Will get back to you all on that one.

If you all have any interesting news to share please share it here also.
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