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Posted on: September 29, 2014, 11:26:35 AM

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Like the title says, I'm gonnaa have to learn Java because of school so I thought to start early but I have no idea about the pros and cons of the IDEs used for it.

So far I've seen that either Eclipse or NetBeans are the most used, any insight?
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Reply #1 Posted on: September 29, 2014, 01:55:30 PM
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I prefer Eclipse over Netbeans, but both are rather mediocre. My favorite would be IntelliJ Idea, but to get your hands on it you need to fork over money or have a .edu email address. Also keep in mind you are likely to be forced to use a certain IDE at your school, but that doesn't matter so much just for learning the language early.
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Reply #2 Posted on: September 29, 2014, 02:52:51 PM

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I prefer Eclipse over Netbeans, but both are rather mediocre. My favorite would be IntelliJ Idea, but to get your hands on it you need to fork over money or have a .edu email address. Also keep in mind you are likely to be forced to use a certain IDE at your school, but that doesn't matter so much just for learning the language early.

Yea I got the Intellij Idea from the net but I have no money to buy it and I'm not about to start using pirated software, from what I've seen of the course they tend to ask for IDEs the student can get for free, so I'm guessing it would be either Eclipse or Netbeans.

Any way thanks for your advice.  (Y)
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Reply #3 Posted on: September 29, 2014, 03:56:22 PM

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I think I speak for IsmAvatar when I say Eclipse is the way to go, Netbeans is bloated and extremely counter-intuitive. Eclipse will make you feel at home with a lot of other IDE's.
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Reply #4 Posted on: September 29, 2014, 04:46:21 PM

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I think I speak for IsmAvatar when I say Eclipse is the way to go, Netbeans is bloated and extremely counter-intuitive. Eclipse will make you feel at home with a lot of other IDE's.

Thanks for the advice, will try it out this week.  (Y)
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Reply #5 Posted on: October 02, 2014, 10:30:45 AM

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My one main complaint with Netbeans has always been that it gives very obscure errors. For some reason Eclipse seems to make the errors a lot easier to read.
My one main complaint with Eclipse is that it is bloated, which can make it a turn-off for people who don't plan to use it frequently, because there's tons of features that you'll never use. That said, surprisingly, I'm pretty sure I've used every single on of the buttons/features in eclipse at some point.

I agree that Eclipse is the way to go. Netbeans has the advantage of a WYSIWYG, but I have a strong opposition to WYSIWYGs because they bloat your code and force their style. They are useful only for proof-of-concept layouts and learning some possible ways to do layouts. Also, I'm sure there's some plugin for an eclipse WYSIWYG at this point.
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Reply #6 Posted on: October 02, 2014, 11:54:47 AM

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My one main complaint with Netbeans has always been that it gives very obscure errors. For some reason Eclipse seems to make the errors a lot easier to read.
My one main complaint with Eclipse is that it is bloated, which can make it a turn-off for people who don't plan to use it frequently, because there's tons of features that you'll never use. That said, surprisingly, I'm pretty sure I've used every single on of the buttons/features in eclipse at some point.

I agree that Eclipse is the way to go. Netbeans has the advantage of a WYSIWYG, but I have a strong opposition to WYSIWYGs because they bloat your code and force their style. They are useful only for proof-of-concept layouts and learning some possible ways to do layouts. Also, I'm sure there's some plugin for an eclipse WYSIWYG at this point.

Thanks for the insight Ism!  (Y)

I have a spanish friend who develops in Netbeans and then loads it to Eclipse for debugging, now I see why.

What about stability/speed/ram consuption?
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Reply #7 Posted on: October 02, 2014, 12:41:44 PM

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Eclipse is quite stable, can be sluggish due to its bulkiness but is generally fast enough for typical use, and uses a bit of ram due to its bulkiness, but it's not going to elope with your RAM. If you're that concerned about speed/ram consumption, use a text editor.
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Reply #8 Posted on: October 02, 2014, 04:35:47 PM

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Eclipse is quite stable, can be sluggish due to its bulkiness but is generally fast enough for typical use, and uses a bit of ram due to its bulkiness, but it's not going to elope with your RAM. If you're that concerned about speed/ram consumption, use a text editor.

My concern about ram is because I only have 2Gb so minus 512Mb for the OS I have 1.5Gb available (more or less), is it enough for eclipse?
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Reply #9 Posted on: October 02, 2014, 05:08:50 PM

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She's exaggerating, I opened up Qt Creator with my LGM C++ port and it used slightly less RAM than Eclipse with LGM and the plugin opened up. I like Eclipse purely because it's interface is NOT bloated compared to Netbeans which is pretty cluttered.


Also Eclipse does have a WYSIWYG plugin for Swing, I used it before to learn various layouts before I got the hang of them.
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Reply #10 Posted on: October 02, 2014, 06:48:41 PM

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She's exaggerating, I opened up Qt Creator with my LGM C++ port and it used slightly less RAM than Eclipse with LGM and the plugin opened up. I like Eclipse purely because it's interface is NOT bloated compared to Netbeans which is pretty cluttered.


Also Eclipse does have a WYSIWYG plugin for Swing, I used it before to learn various layouts before I got the hang of them.

Great! Thanks!  (Y)
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Reply #11 Posted on: October 22, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
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I'm glad that most of everyone here likes Eclipse  :)
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