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Offline (Male) Benxamix2
Reply #45 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 04:13:42 PM

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Tried your dropbox links, and this showed up.

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It seems you don't belong here! You should probably sign in. Check out our Help Center and forums for help, or head back to home.

Only someone with permissions can retrieve the old versions. Or so it seems.
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Reply #46 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 04:17:06 PM

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Three words...

GOOGLE DRIVE

...so much more free space.Just sayin'.
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Reply #47 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 04:31:02 PM

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Three words...

GOOGLE DRIVE

But I'm only seeing two!
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Reply #48 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 04:38:08 PM

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Don't take it from me, what about this guy:



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Reply #49 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 05:59:25 PM
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Quote from: time-killer-games link=topic=1919.msg18713#msg18713
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Three words...

GOOGLE DRIVE

But I'm only seeing two!

LOL!

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Reply #50 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 06:06:20 PM

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@tkg

I was just pulling a manzai comedy :V
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Reply #51 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 07:55:02 PM

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I had a feeling about that.
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Reply #52 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 07:58:32 PM

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I don't feel like downloading and reuploading the old versions it'll take me like several hours, unless someone really really REALLY needs one of the old versions. TKG, does Google drive let the people you share files with download the older versions? I'd like a file sharing host that just automatically lets people download the old versions.
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.

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Reply #53 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 08:01:02 PM

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Why would you use google drive if you can use github?
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Reply #54 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 08:02:03 PM

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@Robert i'm not sure what you mean. Either I'm stupid or it was something I missed. You can upload and share the file download. I'm not sure what else it's supposed to do.

@Rusky the majority of humanity that could potentially consider enigma will be turned of by Git, I'm not just speaking for myself, but for the benefit of ENIGMA. I don't know anyone who knows how to crap around with git other than fully experienced software programmers. If enigma is supposed to target beginners at all or people who don't want to fart around with years of coding like GM does then git simply is just not an option at all.

One thing I agree with Jimmy_D on is the whole scope of git and this repository shit will mean the end of enigma (just one of many potential reasons).The only people who should mess with git are enigma's devs, not it's game development users. That's an entirely different audience.
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Reply #55 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 08:11:51 PM

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You misunderstand me. I said GitHub, not git. You can upload binaries to be associated with tags, and they show up alongside the source zip/tar.gz on a page like this one: https://github.com/enigma-dev/enigma-dev/releases/tag/update-stable

It's free, it's versioned, it's got the same permission set up as the repository already, it's specifically for uploading binaries. Why would you go anywhere else?
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Reply #56 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 08:13:28 PM

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@Robert i'm not sure what you mean. Either I'm stupid or it was something I missed. You can upload and share the file download. I'm not sure what else it's supposed to do.
Let's say I upload a file version A, B, and C. The current version is C, but a user wants to download A, can Google drive allow them to select the version of the file, or do I have to send them a special link, or is it just simply not possible with Google drive like how Dropbox won't let you guys do it either?

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@Rusky the majority of humanity that could potentially consider enigma will be turned of by Git, I'm not just speaking for myself, but for the benefit of ENIGMA. I don't know anyone who know how to crap around with got other than fully experienced software developers. If enigma is supposed to target beginners at all or people who don't want to fart around with years of coding like GM does then git simply is just not an option at all.
It's insanely easy though, and you might want to think about all the Linux users that love utilizing their terminal. In fact, git revision software and package managers are the reason why software on Linux does not bloat your operating system because of the reuse of binaries and libraries. It also makes it insanely quick for a developer to do things, it's also possible for you to make a script and put the backup code in there and simply run the script. Although I use Windows because of Linux having shitty drivers for everything, I prefer to use Linux for software development and programming. Linux is a programmers paradise.

Also, GitHub is the most popular and basically the best revision software, it is a million times better than SVN, if we were still on Sourceforge you can guarantee people would be a lot more pissed off.

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One thing I agree with Jimmy_D on is the whole scope of git and this repository shit will mean the end of enigma (just one of many potential reasons).The only people who should mess with got are enigma's devas, not it's game development users. That's an entirely different audience.
No that couldn't be further from the truth, git was created by Linus Torvalds, the Linux Kernel is hosted on GitHub.
https://github.com/torvalds
https://github.com/torvalds/linux

YoYoGames also uses GitHub.

Facebook uses GitHub.
https://github.com/facebook

Google uses GitHub.
https://github.com/google
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.

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Reply #57 Posted on: May 07, 2014, 08:21:09 PM

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Okay Rusky that explains what I needed to know, thanks. I didn't know github could be used to distribute binaries that is new news to me scratch everything I said about Google drive. I'm scratching my head attempting to realize why I didn't already know this. Talk about hidden in plain sight. XD

Edit my damn spell checker is fucking up my posts.
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Reply #58 Posted on: June 01, 2014, 12:46:32 PM

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@Robert i'm not sure what you mean. Either I'm stupid or it was something I missed. You can upload and share the file download. I'm not sure what else it's supposed to do.
Let's say I upload a file version A, B, and C. The current version is C, but a user wants to download A, can Google drive allow them to select the version of the file, or do I have to send them a special link, or is it just simply not possible with Google drive like how Dropbox won't let you guys do it either?

As long as the files have distinctive names as : ENIGMA v1, v2 v3, etc.

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@Rusky the majority of humanity that could potentially consider enigma will be turned of by Git, I'm not just speaking for myself, but for the benefit of ENIGMA. I don't know anyone who know how to crap around with got other than fully experienced software developers. If enigma is supposed to target beginners at all or people who don't want to fart around with years of coding like GM does then git simply is just not an option at all.
It's insanely easy though, and you might want to think about all the Linux users that love utilizing their terminal. In fact, git revision software and package managers are the reason why software on Linux does not bloat your operating system because of the reuse of binaries and libraries. It also makes it insanely quick for a developer to do things, it's also possible for you to make a script and put the backup code in there and simply run the script. Although I use Windows because of Linux having shitty drivers for everything, I prefer to use Linux for software development and programming. Linux is a programmers paradise.

I have to disagree:

1.- The kind of Linux user that loves using the terminal is not (in general terms), the kind who would be interested in ENIGMA (Other than as a developer), they would develop their games using vim and svn because "that's what real programers use!"

2.- At the moment the vast majority of Linux users are using: Ubuntu/LinuxMint or something as easy to use, because it solves most of your drivers problems for you and also because of launchpad, the easy way to get stuff not in official repositories without compiling it! just check http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity and the number of books dedicated to that segment and you'll realize I'm right.

3.- For this reason you may want to think about getting on launchpad (hint, hint, wink, wink)

4.- Gues what Linux distro I use!

Also, GitHub is the most popular and basically the best revision software, it is a million times better than SVN, if we were still on Sourceforge you can guarantee people would be a lot more pissed off.

git is the shit compared to anyother revision software true but... Sourceforge allows you to use more than one host for your code, also as I mention in another place sourceforge may help luring more developers to the cause.

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One thing I agree with Jimmy_D on is the whole scope of git and this repository shit will mean the end of enigma (just one of many potential reasons).The only people who should mess with got are enigma's devas, not it's game development users. That's an entirely different audience.
No that couldn't be further from the truth, git was created by Linus Torvalds, the Linux Kernel is hosted on GitHub.
https://github.com/torvalds
https://github.com/torvalds/linux

YoYoGames also uses GitHub.

Facebook uses GitHub.
https://github.com/facebook

Google uses GitHub.
https://github.com/google

That is an argument from popularity and any way it kind of proves TKG's point.
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Reply #59 Posted on: June 01, 2014, 12:49:52 PM

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Ok, I see your points, and they are very good. Can't say I disagree, but I don't have time to maintain hosting of ENIGMA on a bazillion websites, like other projects, there should be other people helping out, but nobody ever does.
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.

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