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Offline (Male) Josh @ Dreamland
Reply #30 Posted on: March 25, 2010, 09:39:11 PM

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> Just one thing, I miss the button to go to the parent directory!
I kinda miss that too. But since they at least mimicked GNOME's beautiful button-based address bar, I won't complain about that.

> First of all, I'm quite sure that you can disable that functionality in Windows 7.
I'd hope so. Fortunately, it's my mother's computer, so I don't have to worry about that.

> Second of all, what you claim is an "ambiguity" is actually not ambiguous at all. Mac's windowing system...
Yes, yes. But on XP and Vista, I knew what I was getting intuitively when I clicked a button. On Mac and 7, I'm still not sure what I'll get when I click things. I despise having to go to File->New Window in things, though it is nice that Mac does simulate an MDI and bring -all- the Windows to front when you click the icon, instead of making you select one like 7. Also, alt-tab has been pain-in-the-assified on 7.

> So it doesn't inherit ambiguity. It inherited a feature from Mac that was part of a coherent whole and shoved it onto a different paradigm, introducing that ambiguity. (Kind of like what you do when you try to combine GM and C++.)

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> I can't quite understand what you're saying with the extremely poorly written ... I would say that the ribbon interface makes things more consistent and easy to find than the old drop-down menu + toolbars paradigm, and trying to switch back to it is a silly idea.
You just didn't stare at it long enough. Furthermore, if they actually had enough software that I was still forced to use in that shitty selection of theirs, it would seem more fitting for them all to have ribbons. My first thought when I saw Paint was that they were finally catching other programs up with Word. Problem is, 95% of the programs I use stick with the "File | Edit..." style menus. Not to mention that catching others up with Word isn't necessarily a good thing; Word often makes it fuck-impossible to find anything; I never had that problem before. At least Paint doesn't have enough features to really get lost in it. One nice thing about the ribbons was being easily extended as you work, so it doesn't have to show all that shit at once. Of course, try finding that shit if you need it when the program doesn't know you do...

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Reply #31 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 01:06:14 AM

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Just one thing, I miss the button to go to the parent directory!
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also, hi josh:
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Reply #32 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 08:05:37 AM

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also, hi josh:
Yup, that's one of the very first things I did when I got my new comp.
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Offline (Male) Rusky
Reply #33 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 09:17:32 AM

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Ribbon in Word is actually much easier to find things with. An extremely common experience: "Oh, that's new! ... Wait, that was in 03?"

On h.264: There would be a proprietary plugin of sorts, but it would be much better than the old WM plugin. You can use an existing codec and keep the rest of the tag in the browser. Of course it would be a pain on Linux where you don't have the codec, but Linux is a very small percentage of end users and I think people that care enough to try Linux care enough to download a codec.

Theora may improve, but there's still the submarine patent problem, same as gif. It may even get worse as they improve it. With h.264, you know who owns the patents and they seem inclined to let people use the codec. Of course that's not an ideal situation, but it's better than Theora. The least Firefox can do is support h.264 externally for now so that <video> survives. As it is, they're completely splitting the market and basically killing the tag.

Hopefully if MPEG-LA starts charging distributors for h.264 there will be a better codec available. I believe that's the only way to get people to switch- have a better codec available and then make h.264 cost to distribute.
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Offline (Male) Josh @ Dreamland
Reply #34 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 09:45:35 AM

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> backspace
Functions like the "Back" button in Vista. Didn't try since.

>"Oh, that's new! ... Wait, that was in 03?"
It's been the opposite for me. I was very used to the old layout.
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Reply #35 Posted on: March 26, 2010, 01:56:21 PM

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I was used to the old layout, but it was harder to see the more advanced features. It took me forever to realize the difference between font and paragraph formatting, while in 07 they're separated for you. It would be nice if they wouldn't make contextual controls invisible, but otherwise it's very easy to find things.
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