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Reply #1 Posted on: September 02, 2013, 09:34:56 pm |
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Location: Cappuccino, CA Joined: Jan 2013
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I want to post here the links to the repositories of our LGM rewrite headed by me. LateralGM to C++ and Qt Framework, is the one that will be getting the most attention and actually eventually replace LGM. It is currently just a rewrite of the UI and can switch from MDI to Tabbed mode and other things, it also supports theming via cascading style sheets. https://github.com/enigma-dev/RadialGMLateralGM to C# and .NET Framework, this one was only a test and was only part of the UI, it will not be developed, we hate the .NET Framework here. https://github.com/enigma-dev/SharpGMAnd this last one is canthelp or user ssss on the forum, his port of my Qt/C++ GUI over to python, he already has GMK, GMX, and EGM loading. https://github.com/sssstest/GameEditor.git
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.
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Josh @ Dreamland
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Reply #2 Posted on: September 02, 2013, 10:21:47 pm |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Joined: Feb 2008
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Heheheheh... I am very curious as to how these IDEs will turn out. Our third contender is, of course, NaturalGM. The projects vary in projected capability; let me give my honest (and skeptical) opinion of each really quick.
Contender 1: canthelp's (ssss's) project, Game Editor The pros: Being written in Python, this IDE has grown up extremely quickly. It borrows code from LGM and ENIGMA's code bases, as well as from Robert's IDE's codebase. In addition to that, it is by far the most functional and quickest growing of these IDEs. It may come as a surprise that in general, the IDE performs better than LGM, which is powered by Swing rather than Qt. This IDE is also being tailored largely to the needs of ENIGMA, which means it is likely to have the new features we need. The cons: Everything in this IDE kind of melts together. Plugins are doable only by virtue of python being a scripting language. The author will attest to the code being quite messy. The user has to install Python to be able to work with this IDE.
Contender 2: Robert's C++ LateralGM The pros: Being completely native and designed specifically with ENIGMA in mind makes this IDE an obvious choice for a new user. Thus, like canthelp's IDE, we're likely to see the resources we've planned out within a few releases. In addition to the speed problems, this IDE seeks to address the EGM/GMX loading issues from its Java predecessor. The cons: While focus has gone into keeping the file readers and writers modular, not a lot of attention thus far has been paid to general modularity. The individual editor components are not themselves separate; there is a lot of interdependency that is unlikely to be sifted out. Maintaining this IDE will also take back seat, as Robert is generally preoccupied with other facets of ENIGMA.
Contender 3: DaSpirit's NaturalGM The pros: Spirit has taken care to ensure modularity of each component of the IDE. It is (as far as has been seen) possible to develop a resource plugin for NaturalGM without regard for other resource plugins in the system, which means the odds of us finally adding an overworld resource to the mix are great (we should be able to duplicate the path editor plugin and go from thereāits functional requirements of the remainder of the system are identical). Additionally, this should help ensure that users wishing to add their own resource types to ENIGMA are able to do so easily, as both IDE and engine will be able to accommodate them. The cons: At this point in its development, I can't isolate any concrete issues with the software. That in itself is the only issue: at its present state, NGM is mostly backbone, but the backbone is shaping up comparatively well. The issues that I am able to foresee have all been addressed; only time will reveal any remaining problems as he starts on the concrete implementations.
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Reply #3 Posted on: September 02, 2013, 10:33:10 pm |
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Location: England Joined: Mar 2009
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Contender 1 & 2 & 3 The pros: No java
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I honestly don't know wtf I'm talking about but hopefully I can muddle my way through.
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Goombert
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Reply #5 Posted on: September 03, 2013, 09:23:31 am |
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Location: Cappuccino, CA Joined: Jan 2013
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Uhm, excuse me slojanko? How did you even run any of them, except of course ssss's, but even then, how the fuck did you of all people install python?
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.
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Reply #6 Posted on: September 03, 2013, 09:55:28 am |
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Is the gmx reader and writer for the python IDE actually stable enough to work at all with certain projects? I'm gonna have some fun testing this baby out tonight. :-)
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Reply #8 Posted on: September 11, 2013, 01:17:19 pm |
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That's okay, this is still a very nice project. One suggestion though, consider using PyInstaller to compile all your python scripts for this IDE to a standalone applications for Windows, Mac and Linux each. PyInstaller is free and open source but most important it works very well with seemingly zero bugs. It supports interpreting external modules such as Py game (which I have used in specific for my own personal needs). If you want I can compile this for you but I can only do it for windows and Linux with no Mac access. Cheers, love the pure-code event system!
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Reply #10 Posted on: September 18, 2013, 12:17:42 am |
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Looking good. I like the code folding! I like the idea of ENIGMA supporting a host of IDEs, but wouldn't it be more efficient if all the IDE developing effort went into making one really awesome IDE?
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