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Reply #32 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 09:22:08 pm |
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Yeah, it is a farce.
Someone gets my extension from GM:S marketplace. Realizes it works in ENIGMA. I get sued (even though I had no knowledge it would work in ENIGMA - as ENIGMA is a clone of GM:S).
There you go again, making a preposterous assertion because you don't understand how copyright and licenses work and paradoxically think that makes you an expert on the topic. This is not a complex idea, but until you get your head out of your ass, you're never going to understand it.
No. When this hypothetical person links your proprietary DLL with ENIGMA, that doesn't mean you're violating the license. How could you possibly believe that you are? You aren't even distributing ENIGMA. The hypothetical person is. They are the one in violation of the GNU GPL.
Someone is clearly not reading posts... Here was one of my previous statements: I am beginning to understand the GPL license thing though. As it stands, a developer cant use a 3rd party DLL with ENIGMA unless it shares the same licence.
So, I am agreeing with you.... Either way, I still think that this licence is not suitable for the ENIGMA project. Unless you want everyone to be 100% open source, all hold hands, and rub each others dicks. If that is the case, then yeah - choice of licence is spot on [edit] Josh just got back to me. Seems there won't be a problem. So, happy days Forward we go. Onpon, you can suck my dick BTW (LOL - J/K, I'd never allow you to do that ).
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Reply #33 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 09:57:49 pm |
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Many left because of disagreements with the project and others, or could not care less or for other reasons, you can't assume they are dead Actually, noone has left because of disagreements. IsmAvatar left, but didn't really, because she has work. Polygonz left because he has a girlfriend or w/e and he still stops in. fundies left because he's bored and thinks he knows C++ now. I can't think of any contributor that left because of a disagreement of dispute. A2h left because he had other things to do, he came back a while ago and Josh discussed his new website design. Rusky is back after a year in moron church service.
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.
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Reply #36 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 10:12:23 pm |
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cheeseboy is fundies
There may have been someone doing that but they were probably never a regular here anyway.
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.
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Reply #37 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 10:13:44 pm |
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That's what I've been telling him. If you run a shop and someone comes in your store and steals your shite are you, the store owner going to be accused of a crime ? Same thing. If that were the case then there would be a big problem and a lot of people would end up sued
Law is pretty screwy though. I remember a case in over here in Australia years ago. This is what happend; A burgular broke in to someones home by smashing a window. When he climbed through the window he became severly injured. He later sued the owner of the house for sustaining an injury from the broken glass. The burgular was awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars. There was another one recently which was even more stupid. But, I'll save that story for another day
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Reply #38 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 10:16:41 pm |
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OK I'll tell you anyway Some parents sued some company for the death of their child. The company was found to be negligent andfound in favour of the parents. The parents won the case, but were ordered by the court to pay court fees (~$1 Million dollars). The parents are now bankrupt and lost a child. But they won the case
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Reply #39 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 10:17:47 pm |
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Got an even funnier one, but it hits close to home and was the cause of a very stressful year or so.
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Reply #41 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 10:24:05 pm |
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Anyway! I am starting to code this afternoon. This is gonna be fun! I see big leaps in ENIGMA coming @onpon - I freely admitted here (and other threads) that I don't know about the ins and outs of GPL. That is the purpose of this thread. That is why I gave explicit examples. My interpretation may have been wrong in some cases. But that was the purpose of this topic Having said all this, maybe a 'fork' isn't necessarily the best option anyway. Once people see what I'll be trying to do, maybe it will help shape the whole project in a way that I'd like to see it end up anyway.
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Reply #42 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 10:31:49 pm |
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Darkstar2 that's because you are confusing me with someone else, it was probably me being really negative. I don't specifically recall any particular instance of somebody being upset and leaving.
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Reply #43 Posted on: September 28, 2014, 10:52:26 pm |
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Law is pretty screwy though. I remember a case in over here in Australia years ago. This is what happend;
A burgular broke in to someones home by smashing a window. When he climbed through the window he became severly injured. He later sued the owner of the house for sustaining an injury from the broken glass. The burgular was awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars.
There was another one recently which was even more stupid. But, I'll save that story for another day
lol ! Things like this happen in the UK and North America. but your example is very poor as it is NOT the same thing. In this case the burglar got injured, you were sued for his injury not for him robbing your home Regarding ENIGMA, or your plugins on GMS, don't worry about that......whatever a person does illegally with your plugin THEY are liable, not you, and no, the buyer won't sue you claiming your plugin was too addictive to resist ......... lol. (Sorry couldn't resist!) Anyhow you get the drift. Look, there are millions of users on the planet violating licences and infringing on a daily basis......How many of those get actually sued ? OF those caught, how many get sued? Most people get notices. Again, you as a seller on market place are bound by the terms set forth by YoYoGames......your terms are between you and YYG, and your own terms are between you and the buyer....Whatever the buyer violates is HIS violation NOT yours. Can you imagine the implication if what you claim were true ? it would mean some very serious implication then, then it would be better to shut down ANY file hosting, content provider, file hosts, social media, Market Place, heck shut down the internet Don't have nightmares about this tonite - as a content provider and seller, you SHOULD eventually expect piracy, violations, abuse, etc, and you said to me yourself you know this, so this is part of being a seller and dealing with public.......or being a site owner. Cheers Once you made 10 million $ and get sued by ENIGMA or whomever, then worry then...... I too was worried about this back in the days but I realised, what are the odds that I will make enough money
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