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Reply #2 Posted on: June 20, 2010, 04:26:39 pm |
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Can this be the general E3 thread? We may actually reach more than one page this way.
Nintendo's E3 was awesome. Kirby Wii. Donkey Kong Country. Zelda. The 3DS, which has glasses-free 3D and is getting Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Kingdom Hearts, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Starfox, Ocarina of Time, and about 60 other games.
Microsoft only had Gears of War, and Kinect (Natal). Looks like they cloned the Wii. All the launch games are Sports, Fitness or Party games, and it only supports two players yet costs $150 on top of an Xbox. They'll get a few sales from Kinect Sports though.
Sony was medium quality. They had some cool 3D but the TVs/glasses are expensive. Twisted Metal was a surprise. No PSP2 to counter the 3DS, but the PSP got a few games. A lot was leaked before the conference. Move was another Wii clone, but they put some good 'core' games on it. And they got Portal 2, which is probably also coming to the Xbox and I wish was coming to the Wii (would work so well with the pointer).
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Reply #3 Posted on: June 20, 2010, 11:06:21 pm |
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Cloned the Wii? Nah, they cloned the Eye Toy. Which was "kind of cool," but never really did Sony any good. Of course, no one is as good as Microsoft at tooting their own horn, so maybe they'll manage some good sales.
I've not heard of the 3DS and don't want to go looking; what exactly is it? (Other than a model format I'm going to hate implementing)
And yes, the Wii is the only console that would really make sense to put Portal 2 on. The controls would be perfect. Damn you, valve. Probably too much effort to get working.
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Reply #5 Posted on: June 21, 2010, 03:57:18 am |
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@Ism
All the impressions I've read are that the 3D works perfectly as long as you don't have a crazy viewing angle. Nothing about unfocusing; the screen directs alternate columns of pixels in the direction of each eye. Some journalists said the 3D is more convincing than Sony's own 3D televisions plus glasses. If you have a link to the "refocus your eyes" thing then I'd love to read it because currently I think I'm buying it.
@Josh
MS are clearly selling to the Wii audience, but I don't think it'll be successful as they're not offering anything more than Wii does and it costs more than a Wii to buy.
The 3DS is Nintendo's next console (not another DS iteration). It has two screens like a DS, but also an analogue-stick-functioning pad and a 3D effect on the top screen that doesn't require glasses. It's useful in games because you can judge the height and distance of things in front of and behind the player character accurately (like Mario jumping onto a platform in front on him, or flying a plane under an upcoming obstacle). The effect can't be shown on any videos unfortunately, so you have to rely on the people who've played the demo machines to say what it's like. The 3D is adjustable from zero to full as Ism said.
And the graphics are somewhere between a Gamecube/PS2 and a Wii, on the best looking games shown.
It seems to have much better third-party support than the DS did, because there's no competing PSP.
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Reply #7 Posted on: June 21, 2010, 11:58:24 am |
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XD Yes, stereograms can cause horrible eye strain and headaches. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if generated by a computer (such as 3DS).
Game_boy, what you describe would vastly alleviate this, but would require the DS be held at a certain distance from your face. It probably uses "tilt this VHS box to see the cover art plus scared faces or sans clothing" technology. The little triangular prisms covering alternating lines of pixels. I always hated those. Perhaps it will be better since you don't have to move the DS to see them. Turning the DS upside down would invert the 3D, though, and twisting it past a certain point would remove 3D completely (And possibly visibility). Glare on one side would also remove 3D.
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Reply #9 Posted on: June 21, 2010, 12:49:26 pm |
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Well, I was thinking that it wasn't supposed to be tilted because this time, one eye is to be on either side. So they would intentionally be seeing different images. Instead of doing it accidentally and looking awful.
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Reply #11 Posted on: June 21, 2010, 08:10:11 pm |
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Odd; this is the second time Rusky has concurred with me on something but you have taken his to be the accurate. And mine was the one with the complete description this time. But yeah, Rusky and I agree that it's probably a high-res version of what you see on the front of some old VHS boxes. Where you tilt the tape and the image changes, because every other "pixel" is refracted a different direction. You still couldn't twist it, say, 90 degrees and still enjoy the 3D. And a glare on either side would still kill the 3D as well. I'm not sure how they implemented a slider... Eye strain referred to Ism's stereogram idea. VHS boxes only cause annoyance, not strain. And yeah, tilting wouldn't hurt; only rotating along the normal of your vision would. As for the meteor, I think Dylan got hit by it when he was still on the project.
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