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General fluff => Announcements => Topic started by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 23, 2012, 09:33:01 am

Title: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 23, 2012, 09:33:01 am
Thanks to the efforts of polygone, our little forum has recently acquired three new members!
If you have tried creating an account recently, see the notice at the bottom of this message.

Two of them are disgusting spam bots.
[bubble]Username: RisMilo1984
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Email:    chardricky2012@gmail.com
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Date Registered: Today at 05:23:24 AM
IP:              180.234.242.14
Hostname:        AWBL242-14.qubee.com.bd
Last Active:     Today at 05:23:28 AM
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[bubble]Username: actonpoul113
Posts:    0 (0 per day)
Email:    actonpoul113@live.com
Age:      N/A

Date Registered: March 21, 2012, 09:32:55 AM
IP:              182.178.163.177
Hostname:
Last Active:     March 21, 2012, 09:36:51 AM
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The other one's legitimate. You may know him as fresnobob or, on the IRC, as mrboduma. Welcome to ENIGMA, fresnobob.

Now, you may be asking, how did we manage to acquire two spam bots? Didn't Josh spam proof the forum a year ago?

To answer the latter, yes! He did! Now, how to answer the former?

Well, it seems that while our good friend polyfuck was disabling the email verification, which I don't give a damn about, he also decided that my verification questions are too hard. You see, they actually require a brain to answer! (Rather than a 1"×1"×1/16" collection of tin, zinc, copper, gold, and silicon, I mean.)

Unfortunately, it turns out—and, get this—it turns out, if your questions don't require a fucking brain to answer, then—and pay attention to this part—things which do not have brains will be able to answer them.

So I've went and made another executive decision here—and I do hope you'll forgive me—and I went and put the old questions back.

For your further enlightenment, these were the questions that do not require a brain to answer:

These are questions that do require a brain to answer:

(I throw in the yellow fruit one too so registrants can feel creative; it accepts fifty answers, all of which have thus far been "banana")

SO. If anyone here feels they are incapable of answering the above questions, please leave a reply and I will personally ban you from the forum for all eternity.

Why does this piss me off? Because commercialism is one thing. Spamming links everywhere to steal rank from people who deserve it—DESERVE it, in the capitalistic sense, based on REPUTATION, the concept by which capitalism FUNCTIONS—is, in my book, a pretty serious crime.

Further, I don't even like the fucking pizza ads people stick under my windshield wipers. I make it a point not to visit any restaurant that does that. If you want to stand outside your restaurant and hold up a sign about how great your pizza is, that's great! If you want to do that in a public place, that's fine too! If I am uninterested, I will simply ignore your sign, or maybe I'll decide I'm rather in the mood for pizza after all, and that your effort won me over. If you tie a note to a brick about your pizza and smash it through my window, I will probably by pissed at you for it.

Of course, I also made it so registrants who have not made a post cannot set signatures, avatars, or anything else that could subtly be used to suck page rank out of everything. So in reality, no harm was done by these bots joining. Save for some kilobyte of extra crap in the database, which is negligible. I just happen to like yelling at polyfuck in public.
muahahahahaha



Notice to those who have recently attempted to register:

I found some 20 accounts "awaiting activation" from the past month or so. I just went ahead and activated them all, including duplicates. That said, if you have attempted to register here recently and were unable to activate, I have manually activated all outstanding accounts from within the past year. If you registered multiple, go ahead and use whichever account you like. We'll delete the unused ones in five years or so.

(Admins are not notified by the forum software when a member requests activation; it gets added to a queue somewhere that no one can see until we stumble upon it. When no one is on the queue, it is invisible to admins.)
Title: Re: New members
Post by: TheExDeus on March 23, 2012, 09:50:04 am
Sounds legit.

Parser?
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 23, 2012, 09:50:56 am
The fucking parser keeps printing error messages with the wrong line number because somewhere or another it isn't incrementing said number when it hits an \n. I'm looking into it, but it's a stubborn issue. On the bright side, I could recode the entire segment in 500 lines or less--that's all the bigger it is.

Title: Re: New members
Post by: polygone on March 23, 2012, 12:41:05 pm
I posted in the previous announcements topic with my thought process. Isn't a real member and 2 spam bots better than no new members at all? You didn't have any new members in the past 2 months able to post so I don't think the registration process way going too great before I did that either.

Also I was curious to see how much spam would get through  :)

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SO. If anyone here feels they are incapable of answering the above questions, please leave a reply and I will personally ban you from the forum for all eternity.
Well that's clearly going to be no one since you have to be able to answer the questions to become a member which is in turn required to reply to this topic. You're not going to be able to quantify the amount of people that have been put off registering due to the questions because you'll never hear from them.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 23, 2012, 01:31:10 pm
The implication was, if you can't generate a correct answer to those two questions, then you have no business on this forum. Both mine and IsmAvatar's name appears on the page prior to that one. All any idiot would have to do is press control-f and paste the word "leader" into the box that pops up in order to find one of those.

And if you don't know the name of the forum, why are you posting in it? And if you can't write it backwards, I can't help you with your problems nor do I want to hear about them.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: polygone on March 23, 2012, 01:42:50 pm
Some possible issues I can think of:

- Foreign people or children may not speak English very well and may not understand the question
- People may not think of going back a page to look
- People may lose their details they entered after going back a page
- People may be lazy and consider the process too annoying
- People may enter an answer in a way which you haven't accounted for
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 23, 2012, 02:32:17 pm
- Foreign people can use Google translate, or we can't help them anyway.
--- Children who cannot read cannot write
--- Children who cannot write cannot code
--- / Children who cannot read shouldn't be here
- People who do not think to go back a page did not read the question and will probably just piss everyone off.
- People who lose their details use IE, and are used to it. Those people can type their name and email again.
- If you can't be assed to copy and paste one word, you probably don't have what it takes to program.
- There is only one way to spell "ENIGMA" backwards correctly.
--- Ism and I have two and five nicknames, respectively. I accept all of them except "Ism" and "Josh."
----- The answers I *should* narrow it down to are on the previous page.
--- If you come up with a yellow fruit I haven't named, you're fucking trying too hard.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: polygone on March 23, 2012, 03:10:26 pm
Fine. The name of the forum is technically enigma-dev.org though.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: TheExDeus on March 23, 2012, 04:37:36 pm
Yeah, the name of the "Forum" seems a bad structured question. A better would be the name of the "project", which clearly is ENIGMA. Or just type "Read the banner and write it backwards" which seems like a big task for a bot.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 23, 2012, 08:18:49 pm
This is how it looks:

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Name one of the project leaders here (if you read the last page, you should know this):

Type the name of this software project backwards (Six letters; they're in 28pt type in the top-left):

Name a yellow fruit:
Title: Re: New members
Post by: luiscubal on March 24, 2012, 10:35:58 am
"Name a yellow fruit: "
I hope this accepts "apple" because yellow apples do exist.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 24, 2012, 11:00:36 am
It does accept apple.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: DarkAceZ on March 24, 2012, 04:19:08 pm
Durian
Title: Re: New members
Post by: drcjboduma on March 24, 2012, 07:46:36 pm
 :D, Yay thanks for the mention. 

As a new member of the forum.  Anyone care to fill me in on the current state of things.  e.g. next update/wip/state of things to come etc.

Thanks

CJ

PS - Awesome work so far btw
Title: Re: New members
Post by: IsmAvatar on March 24, 2012, 08:37:58 pm
Just read the latest newsposts (like, the top 5 threads in the Announcements forum). Then you should be up-to-date on the current state of things.


I will mention that some sick bastard decided to make sounds work on Linux again. I don't know who, and Josh claims it wasn't him, so I have to assume maybe Polygone actually managed to get something working and not break stuff for once.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 24, 2012, 10:34:36 pm
They were never broken, Ism. Rusky replaced my Alure with the system Alure, assuming the system had an Alure. Hence, the trick is just to apt-get it. On Windows, lives will be much more complicated. But I'm sure this all fits into rusky's master plan of custom tailoring a fucking compiler environment.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: TheExDeus on March 25, 2012, 06:56:32 am
Windows has some path problems poly and cheese managed to kind of fix (with a 600mb zip). Maybe someone could look into that. I still want to update some of the functions and as I have the privilege now to do so, I will try that. Although first time gitting could end up a disaster.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: polygone on March 25, 2012, 09:41:39 am
It looks like no one is actually bothering to update the Windows 7z now at all so it's probably just going wind up staying as it is. You can blame cheeseboy and Josh and probably Rusky as well :)

However it is still usable if you want Harri and you can commit your functions (you've been added to the repo now in case you didn't know). But you will need to use the 600MB 7z: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26289275/enigma.7z

Just extract that, run git-bash and clone the main repo and then add LGM and the plugins folder to it  (you will actually see a repo already inside the 7z but that is connected to fundies repo you don't want to use that, in fact you should probably just delete it). It does all work fine except the sound, note though you need to run LGM from git-bash.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 25, 2012, 09:43:50 am
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo, polygone.

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Title: Re: New members
Post by: DarkAceZ on March 26, 2012, 06:46:56 am
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo, polygone.

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Polygone banned you.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on March 26, 2012, 07:32:05 am
I doubt it.
Title: Re: New members
Post by: Alert on April 16, 2012, 01:39:02 am
Gah! Return of the 180/182 IP's! I've been getting them as well. They are able to solve my captchas somehow.