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General fluff => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Darkstar2 on October 05, 2014, 03:49:55 am
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I opened a new topic where I will give my impressions on the Technical Preview version. I will update this as I go.
Right now it's late, so I will start posting some info.
First, this was tested on a Windows8 certified and compatible system, here are my specs:
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO (Socket 1155)
Intel Core i5-3570K (rock solid OC 4Ghz)
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (1600)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB 32MB (AHCI)
EVGA GTX 660 Ti SC 2GB
ASUS DVD-ROM / SATA (AHCI)
Mode: SATA AHCI
Version: 64 bit
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Here are some questions / answers I will add further as I go along: These are based on my own experience and observations.
Here is what I discovered so far in this release: This info will be updated as I go along.
- In console, version is 6.4.9841
vs. 6.1.7601 for my Win7 64bit
- After about a minute with a black screen and blue windows logo, the install screen appears. Nothing special there, you choose language, keyboard language and where you want to install your OS......I decided to install the traditional way, as there are other ways to install, to a single file VHD, using shift-f10 and VHD mounting, but I will not get into that right now.
- From there you are asked if you want express install or CUSTOM......Always choose custom if you insist on your privacy as many things are enabled by default that you may not want to, and luckily, in this technical preview, you can turn off a lot of the tracking from apps, tracking from MS, etc. Strongly recommended. From there you can also turn off OneDrive options, and have your PC settings stored locally (AGAIN this option is ON by default) you will WANT to turn it off as any new documents you create gets stored there first.......
- From there, everything else is automatic and installs and configures on its own.....There are far less prompts compared to previous versions (windows XP, 7, etc.).
- Install time took roughly 15 minutes. (NOT BAD !)
- Uses same new GUI boot loader from Windows8, now I would have preferred they kept a legacy boot loader, as there is a delay for this GUI loader to load, THEN the OS.....SO if you have multi OS, you are forced to wait for this to load BEFORE choosing your OS, which sucks, makes loading times longer....however if Windows8/10 are the only OS, then this is not a problem. I have done a second testing installing Win10 along with my Win7, Win7 was seen in the GUI bootloader fine.
BEWARE folks, Win7 uses BOOTMGR, but NOT Win8/10, but I knew this. Fixing this is easy by adjusting MBR/PBR using BootIce and setting it back to BOOTMGR, once finished testing and reverting back to old boot loader. If you don't understand how to manually fix this, then this is why you must install this in a separate physical drive AND unplug your main system drive (must unplug both power and data cable!) NOT just in BIOS.
Moving along,
Boot times are decent but not as fast as my Win7 64bit that loads to desktop within 15 seconds, and it is a fully loaded with drivers and tons of icons, apps.......The GUI bootloader adds to the loading time.....And even though I disabled bootGUI from the msconfig, it still loads it.
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Windows 10: My observations
* Yep, the desktop is back !!!!, start menu is back, and the tiles are combined inside the start menu.....LUCKILY you can unbind them and remove them all! Once the OS detects you are using mouse and keyboard it automatically defaults to desktop mode......otherwise no keyboard/mouse it will default to the tiled UI view......NICE!
Was about bloody time they realise this !!!
* BIG disappointment - no more windows classic in themes. Though you can opt to use solid colours and remove backgrounds, and remove all the fading and effects for max performance but no classic theme!
* BIG disappoint #2 - RIBBON interface that I bloody cannot stand.......You are forced to accept the ribbon interface for the included applications, including explorer, etc.
* The window itself has a new look, I kinda miss the gradient blue in the caption area.
In the final you will be able to tag windows together which is neat.
* Task manager revamped from win7, it's totally different, no complaint there even though I am old fashioned and miss the classic view, this one is easy to get used to.
* Out of the box, memory usage was at 1.0 GB used from my 16GB :D with further tweaking, I could get this down to 900-930MB. I'm sure one could squeeze further down to 700-800MB in the final with trimming tools that will be released. Not bad there.
* You will want to tweak and configure many of the options out of the box......Turning off many items you won't use. You can remove all the appstore app holders - you can turn on/off one drive anytime.......AND you can either access windows signed in to a microsoft outlook account/or hotmail OR use local mode, but you will have to dig through settings and configure stuff yourself in the gear icon inside the task bar, PC SETTINGS.
Everything happens there!!! Once disabled you won't need to sign-in to use windows, it reverts to local and you don't need internet.
The app store is obviously cloud, and all syncing and cloud options can be turned off but if you do obviously you won't be able to use cloud apps and the store......:D
* Detected my NVIDIA DX11 card fine.
Though I saw a D3D12 warp DLL file, so
I guess DX12 will be part of win10 :P
* Benchmark of my SATA drive, HDTunePro:
130MB/s max rate (no complaint there!).
File deletion and copy speed is great, no complaint.
* I went through many things in the control panel, desktop, pc settings and trimmed and turned off a lot of stuff, including firewall, defender, smartscreen, and many of the stuff as I use my own.....Luckily you have control over lots !
* YES FOLKS ENIGMA works in windows 10 ! After installing JAVA of course which took seconds.......Ran without a problem! did not complain of any missing files or dependency.
Things overall were very fast, very responsive, disk access speeds are great.
Network speed out of the box, excellent,
30mbit high speed internet, same sustained transfer speeds as I get in win7, same for file access.......Smooth graphics, motion, no hiccups....With mature drivers and trimming/tweaking in the final I'm sure this will be just as good for gaming.
There are many options that are on such as tracking your location, app tracking, remote desktop, remote access, etc, you will have to look around and turn these off!!!
I will continue testing and further add info and post some screenshots.
Despite the GUILoader and lack of classic windows, I was pleased to be able to have full control over every option in windows, that I could turn on/off anytime. If all holds well through the final, I think this could be an OS, a Windows 7 user could get used to, and it's fast !
So far web browsing, file access, disk access, responsiveness is great.
I compiled an ENIGMA exe it ran smooth as silk, I will be installing some win8 drivers tomorrow for my sound card and update stuff, and try with games........
To be continued.
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Many of the things are not Windows10, but Windows8. As you went from Win7, then you probably didn't know about them. But I do look forward to the new start menu. The fact that you can unbind the useless tiles makes me very happy.
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I am curious as to how my tablet will work with Windows 10... it has a keyboard/mouse dock. If I undock it will the start button go back to the modern UI? Personally I think this version of Windows should have been 8.2.
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Many of the things are not Windows10, but Windows8. As you went from Win7, then you probably didn't know about them. But I do look forward to the new start menu. The fact that you can unbind the useless tiles makes me very happy.
I actually tried Windows 8 too, if you recall I posted about it here many times. So yes, windows 10 is essentially what Windows 8 should have been like......windows 10 = windows 8 + some new stuff, it's not a full OS shakeup....as M$ realise that people don't want a massive change.
Though one thing win10 still has is this ridiculous LOCK screen with the time in big, before you log in to your account LOL, make sit feel like a giant version of your smart phone's lock screen, in desktop mode they should really get rid of that, it's useless.
Yes the start menu has the tiles in them with your apps, etc, that's fine by me, and you can right click on the app icon and unbind it.....You can UNINSTALL the apps as well, all except one drive and app store, though you can disable them and unbind them from view leaving only the start menu.
When this OS runs without keyboard/mouse, it will automatically revert to the tiled display by default, when a keyboard/mouse is used, the desktop mode. Gee why they'd they think of that for win8. :P
There is XBOX integration as well so you can access your game CARD information..... Though I could care less as I don't have an XBOX :D
Ah yes the MULTIPLE DESKTOPS function, where you can expand your desktop and create multiple displays/desktops using the ADD DESKTOP......That's new to win10.
Also the charms menu, that annoying thing that appeared when you moved the pointer to the top right, it's disabled by default in desktop mode......GOOD!
There is a D3D12warp.dll, so I guess this means DX12 will probably be shipped with the final. I don't have any clue on what will be any significantly changed in DX12 as I have not read on that.
Now here is one advantage of using OneDrive cloud storage.....Should you re-install your OS or use your OS on multiple computers, you just sign-in and retain the configuration and settings and access to your documents anywhere. Though you should be aware that nothing online is private, and you should also be aware to read OneDrive's terms of service too :P So right now it seems Microsoft is not imposing cloud yet, I know some people on the inside who have told me this was something they had plans for but realise the implications and they changed their minds on some stuff, but no doubt one day this might not be optional.
The cloud aspect of win10 is just an add-on / option, I mean who in their right mind would use the app store and "apps".....LOL when I use a desktop I don't like having the feeling I am using a giant version of a smart phone.
Other than that, disappointed with the lack of choices, the window style, caption colour, etc, and this SmartScreen thing is annoying at best, it will complain about just about most stuff you download online, which will scan and take ages before telling you that the EXE is not from a trusted source etc.....It did that with ENIGMA portable, so disabled all this rubbish.
Essentially this is Windows 8 with cosmetic changes and some few new stuff, nothing major......Basically any Win8 driver would work in Win10. They could have just called it Windows 8 service pack 2 lol or windows 8.5! :P
Also there is a search icon on the task bar.
Searching slightly improved asking you whether you are searching online, local, app, bing, etc...
The start area can be resized as well.
The snap feature I was talking about, 4 corner snap, works best on single display monitors, you can simply drag a window to a corner or use assist and snap 4 apps together on the same screen.
There is also a TASK VIEW icon on the task bar along with the search one, again reminding me of smart phone, so I don't bother using it......:P
I guess things can change to final, more new stuff, less stuff, who knows :D
Otherwise not much changed. The biggest change is the tiles/desktop/start.
In all honesty, SO FAR, I don't see any real reason for going from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and I'm sticking to Win7. I doubt that I will get any faster speeds for gaming in Win10.
People will think that 8 to 10 means massive change, not quite, win 10 is nothing more than win 8 with fixes.......Or M$ would not be giving it away for free to Win8 users :P
it's just marketing to get people using it, they could have just called it Service Pack 2,
but they would not sell well because of the "8" in it :P
So unless there is something significant to the RTM, I'd like someone to give me a good, solid argument on why should I stop using Windows 7 and use Windows 10 :D
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I am curious as to how my tablet will work with Windows 10... it has a keyboard/mouse dock. If I undock it will the start button go back to the modern UI? Personally I think this version of Windows should have been 8.2.
I don't know - the only tablet I have is android :D
The moment windows 10 detects a touch display, it will revert to the tiled UI display,
if no touch display is detected it will revert to desktop. If you remove your keyboard/mouse from your tablet, it still remains a touch display so most probably the tiled UI will be displayed.
Personally I think this version of Windows should have been 8.2.
lol - exactly. It's a FIXING of the MESS of Windows 8 - mind you it's still a tech preview and there are many areas where they could improve, but I think the big focus is on the cosmetic aspect.......doesn't warrant a major revision ! but people are not going to bitch because M$ will calm the masses by giving it free :P For windows 7 users who never used windows 8, they might actually get used to it, though I don't see why one would do so........windows 7 is very solid, stable, fast.....I don't think I will even bother bench comparing at this stage it would be ridiculous, I will wait for the final version, but somehow I think it should be on par, with the right trimming tools and optimising tools, should be on par with win7's gaming performance, i don't see any reason why not.
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It's pretty similar to Vista->7, which also got a new version name. Windows 8+ are genuinely a lot lighter and faster than Win 7.
But the best reason to switch is probably going to be DirectX 12, which may or may not even exist on 7. DirectX 12 is going to be like Mantle/Metal/glNext in that it removes a lot of performance-inhibiting layers between the application and the graphics card, so you will definitely get a performance boost on DX12 games.
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It's pretty similar to Vista->7, which also got a new version name. Windows 8+ are genuinely a lot lighter and faster than Win 7.
Have you actually used the Windows 10 TP ?
How is it lighter ? give me some examples ?
It still consumes 16+GB disk space. Still comes with lot of features people will want to turn off and not use, out of the box and by default loaded in memory. Mind you this is a preview release, I don't know how much will be different to final, but in terms of memory usage an size, I don't see it being lighter. AS to performance, it might not be fair at this stage as it's not the final, but I don't see how it could be faster than Win7, considering the certain things you cannot disable and reside there. That is left to be seen with optimizing programs to tweak and trim fat. If Windows 10 is lighter and faster, by how much in your opinion ???
As to DX12, so far nobody knows for sure whether it will be available for Windows 7 and people are dodging questions, so that tells me right away the slim chances of that happening :D What better way for M$ to push people to use Windows10. Also my current GPU is DX11 capable, how much of an improvement will I get from DX12 games on my DX11 GPU vs. getting a new DX12 GPU, or is DX12 more of a software optimisation more than actual new hardware features? So it's early to tell. I'll just dual boot Win7/Win10, no problem dong that :D If they bring back the classic windows view and allow the same tweaking on windows/styles and get rid of the goddamned ribbon interface and allow classic view, they will win me over, otherwise like many people, will stick to Windows 7. Based on what I see so far, Windows 10 will gain more market than Windows 8 - BUT probably still not enough, and I believe Win7 will remain popular for a long time to come.
lot of performance-inhibiting layers between the application and the graphics card, so you will definitely get a performance boost on DX12 games.
That will be for people who have at least DX11+ GPUs.....Those with DX9/DX10 cards won't benefit, right ? Anyhow by next year I'll probably end up getting a new card anyway :D
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How is it lighter ? give me some examples ?
I think he meant things like RAM usage and boot times. You already mentioned that it uses 1GB of ram when loaded, which is something Win7 only sometimes could do. It bloated very easily after use. Boot times on 8+ is also a lot smaller than on Windows7. At least on my machine with an SSD they are. Also it's a lot more responsive and I can, for example, open a web browser very rapidly before everything is done loading. On win7 I couldn't do that. It seemed that often times it had to load every single startup program before it responded. All of these improvements are logical though - Win8 was made for tablets. Tablets have bad hardware and they are turned on and off more rapidly. So the fact that windows wanted tablets ruined the interface, but it did improve the performance.
That will be for people who have at least DX11+ GPUs.....Those with DX9/DX10 cards won't benefit, right ? Anyhow by next year I'll probably end up getting a new card anyway :D
These days hardware on GPU's is 95% programmable - meaning they can implement most of DX12 via drivers. That is what they have done with most of DX and GL. Like my card (geforce 660) supports everything in GL4.5 even though the card is released in 2012, 2 years before GL4.5. Actually any Geforce starting with 400 series (released in 2010) supports everything up to GL4.5. The same with DX. There are some things which require hardware changes (http://techreport.com/news/26210/directx-12-will-also-add-new-features-for-next-gen-gpus), but most of it will be supported for cards back to 400 (http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/20/directx-12/). The same for AMD. So your DX11 card actually already supports DX12.
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* YES FOLKS ENIGMA works in windows 10 ! After installing JAVA of course which took seconds.......Ran without a problem! did not complain of any missing files or dependency.
Could you get a picture of a resource editor? I am curious if the look and feel with MDI frames has improved or if it still looks like shit.
But also I think they meant about the task manager, I doubt it has changed from Windows 8, but from 7 yes it did.
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Thanks for the explanation Harri, I guess there is a bias here because I heavily tweaked windows 7, disabling everything not needed, removing all services unneeded, trimming the fat. As to 95% being programmable does not mean it will be done that way. Reminds me of a very old sound card I had with fully programmable DSP, the company practically never made any use of more than 30% of its hardware capability. Might not be good financially for NVIDIA either, otherwise you buy one card now and it works for many generations of DX.......Not going to happen. Some new hardware features will require a new GPU...And games making specific use of those hardware features will require the hardware to take full advantage. Otherwise current titles optimised to DX12, that's another story, apparently there are already games ready for DX12, and some currently in production.
Question now is, will DX12 be made available to Win7.....I would not bet any money on that.......
@Robert: Ok I will take some screenshots,
but personally I don't like the window styles at all, I much prefer the classic windows 7 look, they kept the high contrast retro look in the themes, but removed the windows classic.....! :D
As far as win10 booting faster, I disagree.
It boots the GUI Loader first, then the rest of the OS......My windows 7 boots to full desktop in under 20 seconds, on my SATA3 Seagate 1TB-64MB, fully loaded (all apps/drivers, etc.) Windows 10 takes longer including the GUILoader. I'm sure that this could be tweaked eventually as Windows 7 out of the box took longer I'm sure, than Windows 10 out of the box, so it would be biased to compare at this stage.
As to Internet Explorer 11, sucks ! So I installed Firefox it looks ugly (the windows, caption, etc.) I hope this is not what we are going to get in the final. They just are trying to make cosmetic changes just to call it a new number, but this is still windows 8 folks, and calling it 8 -> 10 is like take the same raw steak from your plate, cooking it longer and adding some salt and calling it a new recipe lol!
Kinda reminds me of what YYG did from GMS 6 to 7 ...... Anyhow.
and the task manager, I can live with the new look though the one in windows 7 looks more....."professional" :P
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Ok thanks! I can't really test without my old Windows 7, could just be stuff disabled from my boot for me, but regardless it feels faster to me but that's circumstantial.
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Ok phase 1 done, I looked around and explored a bit, the window tagging is new to 10. One thing I could not figure out is the virtual desktops, when I ADD desktops it simply duplicates my desktop, and whatever changes I do affects ALL desktops....Is this a bug ???
Ok I looked at the service list and processes, I managed to trim some useless fat......ended app store task, and other crap unneeded......There is a solid 500+MB worth of process/tasks/services to be freed. Don't get me wrong, windows 7 had them too.
Then I remember the great tool I used in win7 for gaming called gameboost, it's win8 compatible, so I ran this MF in windows 10 and it optimised by 40%, combined with my own manual tweaks I brought down memory usage from 1+GB down to 650MB without crippling anything. :D
Phase 2 I will start installing applications, games, benchmarking etc in upcoming days.
I don't know why but I noticed Firefox starts faster in win7 than win10.
Another new thing in win10 is so-called improvements to search, though I much prefer the old fashioned win7 one!! I don't need to be told what's trending and it using the web each time I want to search files.
So basically I believe Win10 changes are in majority cosmetic. I heard classic shell works in win10 as well, can't wait to try that too.....So far I benched disk and file speed and it was fine no complaints there. Next year I'm going to go SSD.
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As to 95% being programmable does not mean it will be done that way.
But it is already done that way. It has been done that way for years. Even Nvidia has said that any card in Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell architectures will support DX12 API. Some of the features it won't support, like blend functions, because those aren't programmable in the current hardware. You could emulate them though, but it would a lot slower.
Might not be good financially for NVIDIA either, otherwise you buy one card now and it works for many generations of DX.......Not going to happen.
Again, this is already true for many years. Just like I said about OpenGL. My card can run OpenGL4.5 (which is actually includes some of the DX12 features), while GL4.5 spec was only release this august and my card is 2 years old.
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What it means by multiple desktops is not multiple spaces to put icons, etc. It means multiple spaces to put windows. It's like OS X spaces or whatever your friendly neighborhood Linux WM calls it, "workspaces" maybe. You can run some set of applications on one desktop, then make a new one and run different applications there, without cramming them all onto one screen.
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As to 95% being programmable does not mean it will be done that way.
But it is already done that way. It has been done that way for years. Even Nvidia has said that any card in Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell architectures will support DX12 API. Some of the features it won't support, like blend functions, because those aren't programmable in the current hardware. You could emulate them though, but it would a lot slower.
Might not be good financially for NVIDIA either, otherwise you buy one card now and it works for many generations of DX.......Not going to happen.
Again, this is already true for many years. Just like I said about OpenGL. My card can run OpenGL4.5 (which is actually includes some of the DX12 features), while GL4.5 spec was only release this august and my card is 2 years old.
Ok I installed the latest NVIDIA WHQL dating sep. 2014, as the ones in Windows 10 were old july ones, the panel shows my card as DX 11.2 API
I installed latest 3DMark and ran all demo / tests,
Nice performance, smooth as silk, 200FPS+ on most tests, with the most excruciatingly complex scenes 25-28fps (1920x1080), guess some of these tests were meant for the GTX Titan but no way this MF is going to spend $1k on a graphics card......The GTX 660 Ti SC is by all means a decent card for gaming, but might not cut it for some games full res maxed out......guess next year will be GPU update time again :D
So far Win10 seems good to me, rock solid, stable, I mean I am glad I have control over removing crap and turning off crap.
I installed GameBooster combined with manual tweaking removal of services and processes unneeded and managed to reduce memory used from 1.1GB down to 560MB lol........ that is out of the box of course as you install drivers, and other stuff this will be raised again but I guess with me having 16GB should not worry right ? :P
I installed AIDA64 latest and ran some tests......
I get similar results, very pleased with RAM, CPU, disk performance, file performance, etc. Really Windows 10 is a cosmetic makeover (sort of), if people think win10 is a new OS they are mistaken, it is Win8, but they actually finally realised that a DESKTOP is a DESKTOP and a MOBILE/TOUCH TABLET is NOT A BLOODY DESKTOP! :P
I installed windows manager 8 and further tweaked settings......you can completely get rid of stuff and tweak stuff you can't normally do in win8/10........like the app store, one drive, etc.
ALSO one positive change, I managed to make Win10 boot just as quickly as my win7, which means 15 seconds to full desktop, and keep in mind I'm not on SSD yet......It's a SATA3 drive mind you so it's mind blowingly fast, I can only imagine with the SSD the massive gains I will get particularly for random access and small file access ! That's for next year.
I also managed to find a way to get rid of that GUI Bootloader........I guess M$ uses this because its loader is touch compatible :D They should have made this optional, as I much prefer the text based bootloader.
SO what I did was use BOOTICE, and edit the BCD file, unchecked GUIBootLoader. Then modified the MBR and PBR........I manually deleted and added new entries in the BCD, and voila ! I now have my windows 7 VHD along with Windows 10 using the text based loader... If you are using multi OS, this was a pain in the arse because you had to wait for win8/10 GUI loader which loads part of the OS, then select win7, which rebooted your system and loaded win7. NOW I can access win10 straight from my text boot loader......This saves on boot time and brings my windows 10 booting on par now....
Those who do not have a spare drive and don't want to install win10 on your physical system drive, you can have win10 TP reside along with your current win7 OS without problems, by installing win10 TP to a VHD. Once you don't need Win10 any longer it is very easy to simply delete the VHD, modify the BCD, MBR/PBR and back to normal. Those who don't know how it's done I will write about this in another topic.
right now my negatives regarding win8/win10, still:
- Ribbon interface......I hate it....... :D
- They removed windows classic, I kinda liked the
windows with blue gradient caption area :D I tried
Clasic Shell, it brought back a Win7 similar START menu, though I figured I could easily get used to the one in Win10, so I won't bother with classic shell.
- The caption area has BLACK TEXT !!! Who's the fucking genius who figured people would like to read black text on dark blue or any colour, it's FUGLY.
In all windows the caption title was WHITE.......This
cannot be changed in win8/win10 !!! I tried through
the registry, but it has no effect!
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I tried some DX11 demos, opengl, graphics stuff,
no complaints......Very decent frame rates, no hiccups. I am really looking forward to DX12. I am getting really good frame rates in DX11 at 1920x1080 already, so I am looking forward to DX12 I will be amazed.
There is a D3d12warp file DLL but in this technical preview version DX12 is not active yet.
Also the task bar is transparent sort of like the glass effect......you cannot switch that off........
And the virtual desktop still confused......It is buggy.
It does not work well with all apps.
Also I noticed that my win10 installation was a whopping 39GB lol.........and later figured out that half of that was the page file.......:P I have 16GB of RAM FFS, do they really need to set such a big pagefile by default ????
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Page files are the same amount of ram by default. If you have 16gb of ram, you will have 16gb of pagefiles. Same with hibernation file. On Win8 the pagefile was actually 2x the ram size by default on my system. So I was quite surprised to see on my small SSD (220GB) to have 16GB+32GB = 48GB taken by them. With 16GB of RAM it's sometimes actually better to disable pagefiles entirely, as it can speed up the system (because now it writes to pagefiles even if you have free ram). I just put it at a much smaller value. Hibernation file is quite useful though, as it increases the speed of shutdown and launch.
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Page files are the same amount of ram by default. If you have 16gb of ram, you will have 16gb of pagefiles.
Yep knew that, though I recall 1 1/2 was recommended.
I tried disabling it but win10 refuses LOL
and in 7 if I disable it it creates one anyway, how bloody annoying. :D So I should just set it to minimal then :P
As to hibernation I don't use that feature anyway, my system is super fast and boots quickly anyway, even when disabling that feature it still creates a hiberfil, how the hell can I completely disable this!
I don't want either hiberfil or pagefile !!! I know that in some rare cases some apps might not work if there is not pagefile, I remember hitting this back in the XP days.....I would hope that with 16GB of RAM I would at least be able to disable this shit, considering 32bit games won't ever access more than 2GB of RAM and I don't think ever needing to fill that RAM. So 16GB pagefile ? LOL right....... no thanks.
So you have SSD ??? Any brand and chipset you recommend ? How fast does your OS boot with the SSD? I can make both win7/10 boot in 15-17secs to full desktop on my SATA3 HDD....
I think ENIGMA would benefit from SSD because it has so many smaller files, when self extracting all those files, would zip right along in SSD.......for compiling too I suppose.
Can't wait to get my SSDs next year. and my new GPU, because unfortunately that 660GTX might get outdated,for the 4k and 8k games :P
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Windows loves to failsafe. If you have fast boot enabled, it will use the hibernation file and create one if it does not exist. And even if you have pagefile disabled, Windows seems to create one if you run out of memory.
And you may not think you need a pagefile, but it's good to have it (although I can understand the desire to kill it when you're on an SSD). For instance I've found a memory leak in the AMD driver that appears when playing Battlefield 4, and it will use every drop of memory it can get its hands on, using up to 7 of my 8 gigs. At that point, it hit the 99% memory used mark and the game dropped to like 2-3 FPS as Windows started ramming the pagefile. Ahhh... by the way it's not easy to discover your driver has a memory leak. You have to download the whole Windows SDK to use a couple hundred kb tool to tell you a 4 char code and then you gotta look it up!