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Title: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: daz on July 26, 2014, 06:39:59 am
Got all 4 of my wisdom teeth pulled yesterday. Feels like my face got hit with a sledgehammer. I'm taking 5 different pills, 3 times a day. On the plus side one of them is vicodin so usually the pain ain't so bad. Unfortunately vicodin also makes me extremely sleepy and nauseous.

Also I can't eat solid food for a week.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on July 26, 2014, 09:49:06 am
What. I had one of my wisdom teeth pulled a while back. I was given a whole stack of gauze to shove in the hole as needed, and I couldn't eat solid food for six hours. Did you fly out to some third-world country to have yours yanked by an elephant pulling some string? Or is my dentist just magical?
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: TheExDeus on July 26, 2014, 10:09:37 am
Well he got 4 pulled. I don't know why though, as they are not usually pulled if everything is okay. And I doubt all 4 started to be problem. He probably looks like a pirate now.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 26, 2014, 12:13:26 pm
Got all 4 of my wisdom teeth pulled yesterday. Feels like my face got hit with a sledgehammer. I'm taking 5 different pills, 3 times a day. On the plus side one of them is vicodin so usually the pain ain't so bad. Unfortunately vicodin also makes me extremely sleepy and nauseous.

Also I can't eat solid food for a week.

You gotta be kidding me ! What the hell kind of dentist pulls 4 wisdom teeth in one session ? And why would agree to pull all 4 at the same time ?

Also it depends on the dentist really.  I had 1 impacted, that required surgery and bone drilling.  Went to a specialist, one of the best in town, cost nearly 10 times more, but did not feel anything, pain was minimal, and only took 1-2 pain killers afterwards and none that followed.

But removing 4 at once, wow ! :D

Just be careful of dry sockets., and
wait until 2 days that's when the swelling really is at its peak :P

cheers
:)
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 26, 2014, 12:18:38 pm
Well he got 4 pulled. I don't know why though, as they are not usually pulled if everything is okay. And I doubt all 4 started to be problem. He probably looks like a pirate now.

Exactly they are usually not pulled if you take care of your mouth hygiene :P  Sometimes they are pulled because those are the teeth that are extremely vulnerable to decay, and once they do it could in some cases be difficult to fill/repair without cracking them, so they get removed depending on the extent of the decay/damage. 

They probably attached rope to his 4 tooth and attached the other end to a truck and metal strapped him to a chair and had the truck hit the gas and all 4 were yanked at the same time ! :P

When I got mine surgically removed and drilled, I could eat within few hours no problem.

They must have excavated a few extra holes / craters - truck must have gone too fast :D :) :P
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: time-killer-games on July 26, 2014, 12:24:49 pm
I got my four wisdom teeth pulled 2 years ago. I didn't feel anything. So happy I was out cold when they were pulled. I've heard a rumor that sometimes when they knock you out like that on rare occaisions there's a risk you'll still be completely awake and can feel the pain of them being pulled as they are being pulled but you can't move, scream, or anything, you can't control yourself you just sit there limp and in pain.

Anyways, I was just sleepy, the procedure went well, no non-wisdom teeth damaged, didn't feel sick. When I stopped being too sleepy to eat I could eat solid food right away. I don'rt remember them saying a thing about not eating solid food for X amount of time but I guess you guys must have had something different happen during the procedure.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: daz on July 26, 2014, 12:39:45 pm
Hello, I have slept for the past 18 out of 24 hours. I'm usually only awake for 1-2 hours at a time. First let me say it's extremely probable they botched the surgery and just didn't tell me. I needed all 4 taken out, 2 of them were impacted, and 2 had already started to decay in my mouth. All 4 probably shouldn't have been done at once, but I didn't really care.

I was able to eat within 4 hours of surgery, but only mushy food (which I'm supposed to eat for the next week too). I was bleeding for basically the entire first day so I had gauze in my mouth all day, but now on day 2 there's only a speck here and there of blood.

As to why I am supposed to eat only mushy foods for the next week, I think it is to avoid getting chunks of food lodged into the partially open wounds, or to avoid ripping off scabs or the sutures. So it's not that I lack the capability (although it probably would hurt a bit to eat solid food).

I don't know if there was any bone drilling at all, but I did have one problem tooth that could be seen from the xray (the root was extremely curved), and that was the one that was bleeding the most.

As for the drugs, I took a valium before I went in "to calm my nerves" she had said, although it made me feel like I was drunk to be honest. Hard to form sentences, sluggish movement, and hard to keep myself balanced. Once I was in the op room they stuck an IV in me which was just saline, and then drugged me with laughing gas. I did have an allergic reaction to the surgical tape, so she injected "Benadryl" (this is how she worded it to my mom, although I'm sure it was similar in ingredients but not actual Benadryl) into my IV to combat the rash and replaced the tape with bandaids. Anyway basically once I started breathing in the gas the next memory I have was waking up in the car on the way home. I didn't feel a thing of the procedure, just the after-effects.

As to why I actually agreed to have all 4 of them done at once, that's how I've heard of literally everyone else having theirs down around here (when all 4 were like to cause problems). My mouth is also rather small, so even if they had managed to all finish growing in even braces would not be able to realign my teeth. [but also see above for why I had them removed] (and this small mouth is genetic from my mom who also had to get all of hers removed. My dad has all four of his though no problem, I just have bad luck). Plus you know I'd rather not have to go through this whole process twice ^_^.

The swelling hasn't really been that bad. I applied an ice pack for the first day alternating sides, plus I am taking an anti-inflammatory.

Pills I am taking: vicodin, another pain killer, general vitamin, anti-inflammatory, and something like Pepcid AC to calm my stomach.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 26, 2014, 07:12:48 pm
I got my four wisdom teeth pulled 2 years ago. I didn't feel anything. So happy I was out cold when they were pulled. I've heard a rumor that sometimes when they knock you out like that on rare occaisions there's a risk you'll still be completely awake

It's not a rumour TKG, it's in medical literature.  It's called anesthesia awareness,  There are several layers to anesthesia, paralysing of muscles so you can't move, and the brain part.  Sometimes people will "wake up" (the brain part) but still be under the effects of the paralytic, so the patient cannot move or talk but will feel the pain.  Sometimes a person is not fully aware. Think of it like sleep paralysis when your brain wakes up but you are paralysed and cannot move.

Wisdom tooth removal does not always require general anesthesia.  Mine had to be surgically removed as it was not fully grown and impacted under the gum, which had to be sliced and part of the bone drilled.  I only got a local shot of Novocaine + area reinforced with spray I was fully aware the whole time and did not feel a bloody thing. :D  Some dentists don't numb the area properly.  Seeing a dentist vs. specialist is a big difference.
Some people have extreme anxiety and fear, that does not help, that can have you "fighting" the anesthesia.
Though TKG, had you woken in the middle of the procedure you probably would not have felt a thing if they also numbed the area properly, only thing would have been the discomfort of being paralysed and not able to move, sort of like being trapped in your body. :D

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and can feel the pain of them being pulled as they are being pulled but you can't move, scream, or anything, you can't control yourself you just sit there limp and in pain.

This happens with regular surgery, sometimes due to the wrong doses given, usually, it's rare, but can happen, for whatever reason, though for wisdom teeth removal they probably give general anesthesia to people who are very anxious/nervous, and not because of the pain of the procedure, which actually should not be that painful if done correctly.  So if you'd wake up you'd still be numb in the area where the tooth is being pulled.

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Anyways, I was just sleepy, the procedure went well, no non-wisdom teeth damaged, didn't feel sick. When

A good dentist makes a big difference TKG.  Sometimes harder to remove tooth are drilled or sawed in half, especially weak, decayed tooth.
Mine gave me 2 strong anti inflammatory/PK 2 hours prior to surgery.  I didn't eat or drink prior to the procedure.   

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I stopped being too sleepy to eat I could eat solid food right away. I don'rt remember them saying a thing about not eating solid food for X amount of time but I guess you guys must have had something different happen during the procedure.

To avoid possible infection at the site and residues getting stuck inside the hole.  It has to heal properly first,
not a good to eat or get food in the area around where the hole is.....you want to avoid "dry sockets".

I did not feel a thing getting my WT surgically removed ,but what is weird is that when I get tooth filling from my regular dentists even though I get numbed I sometimes feel the "zing" of the drilling sometimes, hits a bloody nerve and the feeling is excruciating pain.   

I guess some people have better thresholds of pain.  When I was a kid I used to get my fillings done cold, which means no numbing......:D  Now, even with numbing I sometimes feel the pain of filling a tooth and they are usually tiny cavities.

Daz, make sure you use that ice mate !  For the first 3 days use the ice, the pain killers and keep the area clean ! Don't brush teeth, and keep inside of mouth clean and that no residue lodges inside the holes, and you will be fine, if all goes well couple of days to 1 week you'll be ok.  though I'd never allow 4 removed at once that's crazy :D
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: time-killer-games on July 26, 2014, 07:22:12 pm
Oh yeah, dry sockets, I remember now.. Okay so I had to eat mush too I just can't remember everything from two summers ago.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 26, 2014, 07:37:22 pm
Hello, I have slept for the past 18 out of 24 hours. I'm usually only awake for 1-2 hours at a time. First let me say it's extremely probable they botched the surgery and just didn't tell me. I needed all 4 taken out, 2 of them were impacted, and 2 had already started to decay in my mouth. All 4 probably shouldn't have been done at once, but I didn't really care.

Actually you are the patient, it's your right to ask that not all 4 be removed.
Also, was it your regular dentist who removed them or a specialist ? (specialists also are maxilofacial surgeons) and have done it a lot, and actually teach dentists.:) So you had 2 impacted ones, those are fun :D They probably had to drill a hole in your bone to reach it and yank it out and in some cases they saw it in half (the tooth).

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I was able to eat within 4 hours of surgery, but only mushy food (which I'm supposed to eat for the next week too). I was bleeding for basically the entire first day so I had gauze in my mouth all day, but now on day 2 there's only a speck here and there of blood.

You're doing fine :D

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As to why I am supposed to eat only mushy foods for the next week, I think it is to avoid getting chunks of food lodged into the partially open wounds, or to avoid ripping off scabs or the sutures. So it's not that I lack the capability (although it probably would hurt a bit to eat solid food).

Food getting stuck / lodged is potential for bacteria and the last thing you want is an infection, as that will hurt like a MF ! :D  I reckon when I had mine removed I played it safe and did not eat solids, and had smoothies lol!

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I don't know if there was any bone drilling at all, but I did have one problem tooth that could be seen from the xray (the root was extremely curved), and that was the one that was bleeding the most.

Was probably on your impacted, and was likely the reason it had to be removed as these can make cysts and spread to healthy tooth.  Some dentists are money hungry and tell their patients to remove all 4 just to avoid possible future complications ! You mentioned you had only 2 impacted ones, those HAD to be removed, but the other 2 were they decayed ? If not, you didn't have to remove them.  Your dentist probably scared do and told you that it had to be removed because of the empty space below and the top tooth shifting down.....:P scare tactics, most of the time it's really not needed to remove all 4, fact, there is no reason to get them removed at all unless 1) impacted 2) decayed, and these are vulnerable to decay more than any other tooth :D

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As for the drugs, I took a valium

LOL oh is that what they told you ? :D :D :D They probably gave you some E. :P

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As to why I actually agreed to have all 4 of them done at once, that's how I've heard of literally everyone else having theirs down around here (when all 4 were like to cause problems).

Rubbish, that's like many dentists saying you need a tooth filling when you really don't have a cavity, just the beginning of decay, which often can be reversed with proper care....Most dental procedures are frivolous, just like surgeries :D  If you really brush carefully, floss and take care of your teeth and gums, you should not have problems.  The wisdom are hard to reach areas so dentists ASSUME it's ok to yank all 4 to avoid potential problems later on but I only have 1 removed and I had to, and I'm still alive :D

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bad luck). Plus you know I'd rather not have to go through this whole process twice ^_^.

Well the impacted ones are surgery, otherwise the grown ones are less complicated. 

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Pills I am taking: vicodin, another pain killer, general vitamin, anti-inflammatory, and something like Pepcid AC to calm my stomach.

Ok those are some strong PKs :D
I managed with advil.  Only took 2 anti inflammatory pre-surgery and a preventive prescription of Pen-V in case of infection, which I never had.

At least it's done :P 

Now when you woke up at your dentist, did you see some hooks and ropes / cut ropes and crooked door knobs ?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: edsquare on July 26, 2014, 09:38:45 pm
Actually, I don't know what you mean by impacted, I had all four removed (not in one session though) because I didn't had enough space for the teeth to actually emerge, two of them had 4 roots and were welded to the bone, even lost part of the ceiling of a sinus and that one kept troubling me even after the gums had healed.  :(

I wasn't trypping but then again the doctor didn't sedate me, only local anesthethics and that was it, all four times.  :(

What I do remember is the excruciating pain the next day when the swelling started, MF! I wished for some heavy use drugs for the first time in my life!, but... since I lived with my mom still... no such look, get well soon.  :D
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: daz on July 26, 2014, 10:35:16 pm
Was probably on your impacted, and was likely the reason it had to be removed as these can make cysts and spread to healthy tooth.  Some dentists are money hungry and tell their patients to remove all 4 just to avoid possible future complications ! You mentioned you had only 2 impacted ones, those HAD to be removed, but the other 2 were they decayed ? If not, you didn't have to remove them.  Your dentist probably scared do and told you that it had to be removed because of the empty space below and the top tooth shifting down.....:P scare tactics, most of the time it's really not needed to remove all 4, fact, there is no reason to get them removed at all unless 1) impacted 2) decayed, and these are vulnerable to decay more than any other tooth :D
Two were impacted, and the other two were decaying. None of them had finished growing in completely. I had my wisdom teeth removed by an oral surgeon, different from my regular dentist/hygienist's office (so scare tactics is unlikely. Plus my dentist is a nice guy). I had felt no pain really in my wisdom teeth other than discomfort every now and then. My dentist is one of those fancy laser dentistry places, and they use lasers for both filling small cavities and for detecting cavities. The two that were decaying were far gone according to the dentist, to the point where they'd likely have to be pulled as soon as they finished growing in (and if not I'd have to get root canals most likely).

LOL oh is that what they told you ? :D :D :D They probably gave you some E. :P
Valium's what it said on the prescription bottle.

Now when you woke up at your dentist, did you see some hooks and ropes / cut ropes and crooked door knobs ?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I didn't wake up until I was in the car on the way home :p

I've got some swelling but it's not severe. The anti-inflammatory they gave me is basically a crapton of ibuprofen and it's really irritating my stomach. I started taking some advil instead (which has much less ibuprofen) as well as icing and it's doing fine.

I wasn't trypping but then again the doctor didn't sedate me, only local anesthethics and that was it, all four times.  :(
I'm glad I was given the laughing gas. I've had cavities before and being awake for those is stressful enough, even though usually I don't feel much.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 26, 2014, 11:39:14 pm
Actually, I don't know what you mean by impacted,

Normally the tooth grows normally above the gum, into the mouth......  Impacted, it does not fully grow, it may either not go past the base of the gum or slightly but it is "blocked" from normal eruption due to another tooth.  This can cause complications. Sometimes cysts start to form and that can cause serious complications down the road.  Impacted wisdom tooth is not uncommon. 

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two of them had 4 roots and were welded to the bone, even lost part of the ceiling of a sinus and that one kept troubling me even after the gums had healed.  :(

The surgery to remove an impacted tooth carries its risks, a nerve can be pinched, and that will have a lasting effect even after healing.  Your dentist/surgeon would normally inform you of this.

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What I do remember is the excruciating pain the next day when the swelling started, MF!

Yes, throbbing is common.  That's why you are given pain killers.  I did not WAIT until I got to that point and took my PKs, full daily dose for the first 2 days, I did feel some pain and throbbing but not excruciating.

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I wished for some heavy use drugs for the first time in my life!,

Some dilaudid would have done the trick ! lol!

Imagine people getting ALL their tooth pulled and dentures placed in.....when they have to drill holes in bones and put hooks ! :D
I don't look forward to that MFing day, and that's why I take care of my teeth ;)
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Goombert on July 26, 2014, 11:54:53 pm
Stick a penis in it and hush up.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 26, 2014, 11:55:43 pm
Two were impacted, and the other two were decaying. None of them had finished growing in completely. I had my wisdom teeth removed by an oral surgeon, different from my regular dentist/hygienist's office

Good.  You also must have felt the price was different too.  I was charged over $400 for 1 tooth removal, duration of procedure, 20 minutes :D  BUT was well worth it, did not even feel the numbing.
My regular dentist would have charged me $40 LOL, but when she started the procedure on me, I felt intense pain as she was sawing my gums open lol so she stopped and referred me !  the specialist told me all was needed is just more anesthesia :P This one rare thing where I don't mind paying 10x more for :D

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(so scare tactics is unlikely. Plus my dentist is a nice guy).

Most of them are nice, they charge 3 big figures to clean your teeth and poke cavity hooks inside your teeth so they better be nice :D

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I had felt no pain really in my wisdom teeth other than discomfort every now and then.

You did well.  Leaving them untouched gets worse over time, cysts can set in, they can be come cancerous, infection can set in, then you would wish you had them removed !  In my case my dentists shares the xrays with me, and he knows that I know so no scare tactics or lying needed, big advantage there. One should never ignore impacted wisdom tooth.

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My dentist is one of those fancy laser dentistry places, and they use lasers for both filling small cavities and for detecting cavities.

We have those here, but even with the laser ones you get numbed, they are cleaner and no risk of friction building up and exciting the nerves that's not fun!

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The two that were decaying were far gone according to the dentist, to the point where they'd likely have to be pulled as soon as they finished growing in (and if not I'd have to get root canals most likely).

There are far worse problems too.

So no use of elephants or door knobs, that's a good sign.  I heard from people that things were so different back in the old days, people used to receive their shots with sharp knives and bigger needles, pulleys used, ropes, etc. TORTURE basically :D

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I didn't wake up until I was in the car on the way home :p

Were you the driver ?  ;D

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I've got some swelling but it's not severe. The anti-inflammatory they gave me is basically a crapton of ibuprofen

Probably some Naproxen. Yeah some people don't tolerate that stuff.

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I'm glad I was given the laughing gas. I've had cavities before and being awake for those is stressful enough, even though usually I don't feel much.

Yeah when you hear the sound of the drilling.......Now it's worse because they have become so much smaller and thinner, so the sounds they make are very high pitched and highly disturbing.

When I had mine removed I wore some headphones and listened to some loud music, that helps and the specialist was talking to me the whole time saying what he was doing, such as cutting my gum in half, drilling in the bone, pulling the roots, etc.....lol, and all that did not feel a thing......oddly I feel intense pain during a regular cleaning due to sensitive enamel.  :P so much that I should get general anesthesia during regular cleanup :D

So now that you have your wisdom taken out, you don't have to worry for a while, until you get dentures :P
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: daz on July 27, 2014, 01:02:36 am
I have dental insurance, so going to get my teeth cleaned twice a year is "free". Also getting all of my wisdom teeth removed didn't cost a penny.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 27, 2014, 12:12:33 pm
I have dental insurance, so going to get my teeth cleaned twice a year is "free". Also getting all of my wisdom teeth removed didn't cost a penny.

You'd be surprised but it's not free...group insurance can be costly especially if you are healthy, and you do the math it costs far exceed 2 dental checkups :P   Also don't know what company you are using, but most group insurances offering dental I've seen cover for 1 checkup per 9 months.

Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: daz on July 27, 2014, 12:22:48 pm
That's why I put free in quotation marks ;). My whole family has dental insurance through my dad's job, but it is indeed one checkup every 6 months (per person) at no charge. I don't know the name of the dental insurance company though.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 27, 2014, 08:17:24 pm
That's why I put free in quotation marks ;). My whole family has dental insurance through my dad's job, but it is indeed one checkup every 6 months (per person) at no charge. I don't know the name of the dental insurance company though.

It's the same as your group dental, dental is the optional coverage.   Some cover 60%(or 80%).

Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Goombert on July 28, 2014, 07:08:08 pm
Stem cells can regrow scientists with teeth thanks to lasers now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/bright-idea-scientists-use-laser-lights-regrow-teeth-n118876
http://www.genengnews.com/gen-news-highlights/teeth-sprout-from-glia-derived-stem-cells/81250160/

This African guy just broke a world record with 232 teeth removed.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140725010337-india-teeth-4-horizontal-gallery.jpg)

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/25/world/asia/india-abnormal-teeth/

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140725010205-india-abnormal-teeth-3-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 28, 2014, 09:18:08 pm
That was painful to read Robert......They can allegedly regrow the tooth but not the enamel ?  Yeah I can imagine having regrown teeth without their protective enamel.  You'd be in excruciating pain 24/7... Ask someone with thinning, sensitive enamels :D

What would be nice is to regrow the teeth without the nerves this way people can't feel any pain at all :P  This would be a good alternative to dentures !  :pseudo:
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on July 28, 2014, 09:27:18 pm
I still have four wisdom teeth left, if that counts.
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: time-killer-games on July 28, 2014, 11:06:56 pm
Robert that is so racist they have darker skin in India doesn't make them black or African. India is a penninsyla at the bottom of Asia. Get your 4th grade geography straight. :P
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Goombert on July 28, 2014, 11:50:59 pm
blah blah blah, all I heard was penis
Title: Re: Freakin' Ouch
Post by: Darkstar2 on July 29, 2014, 12:27:14 am
Congratulations on turning 10 today.

Hope the cake was good!

:D