ENIGMA Development Environment

How about we don't edit other people's words, thanks. Put the topic back as is.

@Josh

I do like to play, I do like to argue and if you all are too fragile to handle it that's too bad. I'm sorry for you. I'd bet I'm more stressed than any of you but I put up with being called an idiot or whatever without crying for bans or censorship. I've had a "Fucking Moron" badge on my account for 10 years now. Honestly, this project had stagnated a few years back and I gave it a second wind lately. Hopefully, it can continue without me. Maybe, YAL or whoever will step up. But, Honestly I do, and have, played nice with people irl enough. I don't want to worry about everyone's feelings in some online hobby group. I don't really have any will/intent to change. I'm not so fond of Rusky / Robert or whoever that I'm going to change my personality just so they'll like me more. I'm in multiple communities where I get along with others but software devs seems to have the most fragile egos. I put a lot of work into the project and even though part of me wants to see it burn right now because of your attitudes I do hope you finish it even without me.

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99% of Robert's work is redoing code he already wrote poorly and 100% of it can be can said for Josh

That is 90% of what software engineers DO or Josh wouldn't tell me about other people's code he's always refactoring at work. Nothing works right when anybody first starts it, it takes time, that's what incremental software engineering is. Your forum title, "fucking moron", is RIGHTLY owed to you.

Nothing you write works properly first time but that's just the case for you. It's not that hard to make a plan and do it right the first time, only a "fucking moron" would spend 7 years rewriting the same thing 20x.

Nope it's announcement. I've left the discord so now its safe for you to run in circles getting nothing important done without any criticism

Josh and Robert have now decided being nice takes priority over progressing the project. Despite the fact noone does more to help new users set up enigma than me, they've taken it upon themselves to ban me from the main discords channel. Robert's now approaching 1 year on finishing something that should've taken a few days. Josh has pushed an update to JDI just in time for the 10 year anniversary. And TKG has rewritten the same dialog system for 20th time. Meanwhile, I've made huge efforts to bootstrap the IDE, write a new file format, implement MSVC, Android and HTML5 support as well as starting the CI to ensure less breaks. However. none of that is appreciated. I can't get even a little help. Even when I practically beg for it. Instead I'm banned for being an "annoying asshole."

I've removed my account from discord and removed myself from the organization on Github. TKG, and all the other people incapable of taking a joke can now rejoice in your "safe space."

I'm sorry I ever cared.

@cheeseboy - scaring away people from using a game engine you majorly help develop and wish was popular, (and it has maybe 4-5 actual users on the planet), is a great idea, don't you think?

This post is about him leaving because he didn't want to invest any effort. I'm not interested in begging users to stay if he wants to leave that's fine. I've said on numerous occasions I don't consider enigma user ready yet. Although, you CAN use it, I don't suggest you SHOULD as you may run into issues like his that require some level of debugging. Which in turn requires some basic knowledge of command line interfaces and programming outside of a GM environment. We're willing to help users through their issues even though were not obliged to but we can't help anyone unwilling to try. We prefer to attract developers, not users at this stage.

Enigma has always compiled. The exe you are referring to was msys2 (a very old version) that none of us wanted to maintain. There's nothing stopping you or anyone else from making a new one. As for documentation, the wiki is editable by all forum users so have at it.
There are only 1-3 devs at a time and enigma has never been a finished product and  probably won't be for a very long time. Remember enigma is a free program that anyone can contribute to.

So I've been away from the project for a bit and I come back to look at the issues tracker on github and there are fucking 109 issues. I know enigmas a flaming turd held together with spit and ducttape but even so 109 issues seems extremely high. So I've looked into the issues and out of 109 only 25 are tagged reproducible. Many "bugs" range from 2-4 years old without any activity from the poster. Most bugs don't provide a proper example or log and NO bugs mention the revision of enigma they were using. The github issues tracker is in desperate need of a purge....

Things that do not belong on the tracker that I've seen there:

Licensing debates. (Debates belong on the forum or irc)

Issues with portable zip and winpatch. (These we're created out of convince for dumb-ass windows users. They're files in someone's Dropbox and are in no way affiliated with the GitHub code. if they don't work you can install things manually or ask for setup help on irc or the forums)

"That would be nice feature requests" : ("Please add wayland support. Please support nintendo ds export. Enigma doesn't run on my toaster". Sure it'd be great if enigma did those things but if we accepted every request like that the tracker could easily be over 1000 issues right now..)

Please post detailed bug reports:
A bug report generally should contain all of the following...

The revision of enigma you're using.
A minimalistic game producing the issue you are experiencing (provided it's not a plugin issue)
The OS you ran this on.
The target APIs used.
Any non default extensions you may have used.
A full compile / error log.
A gdb backtrace for any crash of a compiled game. 

Without this information we are forced to wait on user's reply for details or for acknowledgement something is fixed and many bug reports become stale and sit there forever. Any potential dev looking to help could be put off by the pure shit that is our current tracker. Please purge.

I know where errors are written to. The fact though is that they should be a) Shown on the screen and b) Be consistent.

My point was they should be written to stdout but windows is too slow for that and writing a custom error window to cater to windows shittyness is waste of time.