ENIGMA Development Environment

Gamemaker Studio is indeed a wonderful software, however it does have a lot of drawbacks: the main issue being made for Windows.

I've been using windows software since forever and no issues.  Yes there are stability issues, but that comes down to the software itself.  Windows 7/10 has gone a long way.  Isn't there a MAC native version of GMS2 or one in the works ? I was under the impression that it was said that there would be Windows, mac and Linux versions.  Maybe one day. 

When I buy a product, the manufacturer should not have any rights to the use of said product.  After all when you buy a pair of shoes, do Adidas or Converse tell you how to wear them?

This is where I disagree.  You are buying software and you have permission to use it. Buying does not entitle you to own the rights, decompile, resell it, modify it, etc.  Keep in mind that you are buying GMS2, which entitles you to use the software and produce
games.  You own the rights for YOUR games, however, the engine belongs to YYG, and whatever is used inside your compiled games belongs to their respective authors.

So essentially you are saying, you are buying software from me but that should give you the rights to modify it, give away, resell it ?

Also keep in mind it's not much different with ENIGMA, other than ENIGMA is FREE, it is open source, and subject to specific rules.  You must distribute your game with the source code and you must accept the fact that people can modify and re-distribute your game.  This is open source, whereas with GMS2, this would not be possible without expressed permission. As far as stability, GMS is day and night next to ENIGMA in terms of stability.  Of course ENIGMA produces smaller EXE files and shines in some areas, but overall in terms of stability, documentation, features, GMS shines, but there is a price to pay for software development, whereas on open source projects it tends to be stagnant pending developer availability.   You can do as you want with GMS2, the games you produce are yours, and you own the rights, however, the engine belongs to YYG - The same way commerical software you buy also mentions the respective licences in their software agreements.  Every solution has its pros and cons. 

So don't fret; or be discouraged from using Enigma. it is a wonderful piece of software. I absolutely love it and will continue to use it.

I love it too, but now it is so much out of date, incomplete, buggy and unstable.
For some people it's a question of money they want a FREE alternative.  Now with GMS2 and the new IDE and features, I think this makes ENIGMA even more obsolete.
Too many workarounds in order to make functional games in ENIGMA, mainly with the IDE.....Not saying that GMS2 is perfect, it's not, but it's more complete and stable than ENIGMA's IDE there's no doubt about it.

I think ENIGMA is obsolete and continuing any kind of development around it is a bloody waste of time - ENIGMA needs to change course and be its own product and detach from GM's knob.   The problem ? It relies on availability of developers and experienced developers - Open sourced projects is also susceptible for clashing of developers and division, disagreements and fuck ups due to abandonment, poor testing, etc.  I guess this was the case with ENIGMA if you followed the older topics

It's a conspiracy mate, I can tell you why, but I won't.......

Guys why are you wasting your bloody times - pay $1400 and buy GMS2, and get peace of mind.   Good support, good developers, bug free software, PERFECT software without any flaws.

 

Darkstar2, this is where we could not be any more distant in how we view these two software products. Both ENIGMA and GMS1 / GMS2 have a lot of bugs, but not enough to stop people from making great games with them. I'll just leave it at that...

And did you really have to quote me (and that huge image)? lol

lol - fixed - removed image.

Yes I know people are still making their games in GMS1 / GMS2, at least they have a working IDE!  With ENIGMA, how the bloody hell can a person make a game when the  IDE is broken (LGM) and crashes. That's the main issue here.  Of course if the wank IDE was functional we could agree that despite the bugs people could also make games.

Given all the time that has gone by waiting, it is sad to see YYG once again playing it "safe".  A lot of focus shifted towards the new IDE, and revamping.  Is there significantly new functionality to brag about, to justify itself as a new generation product ? No.  It does even have video support for fucksake!  Something that should be standard support.  They rely heavily on the market and their end-users doing the dirty work and building addons, extensions etc, so they can make $$$ out of it.  Their pricing scheme is beyond ridiculous - people should be able to choose the export modules THEY want, a la carte style, not be imposed shit they don't want.

More so, tracking inside compiled projects.  I can understand why they would like anonymous data collected for whatever reason, I have nothing against it, most of the software I use on my PC already does this, many do.  However, this should *NEVER* be imposed on your end users, EVER.  If I were to distribute applications / games where there is ANY tracking whether anonymous or not, I would need FULL disclosure on the data being sent.  I'm not sure my clients would be too happy and would frown upon any product that does not disclose exactly what is being tracked they would be fucking irate about it. 

For windows developers I don't think this product is moving in the right direction - I think ENIGMA shows more promise, flexibility, compact file sizes, more functionality.  It's time for ENIGMA to detach itself from YYG's nob and be it's own product.  Is GMs2 really raising the bar ? not quite, ideally, windows developers should learn to code or use better tools for that effect.

The ridiculous licence and restrictions imposed,the imposing of tracking and lack of significant change other than the IDE makes this not worthy of purchase - GMS 1.4 will be decent for most use, particularly for PC users.  If you really want to upgrade just for the new IDE, ask yourself is it worth the price ? when there are some "alternatives"

GMS2 does not have me impressed to the point of saying "Hey all these bloody years waiting were worth it........" I had the same feeling 12 years later when Duke Nukem forever came out and I thought it was an utter pile of shite.... the longer the wait, the higher the expectations.

Cheers

it has made some progress towards stability, it has a ways to go yet. Feel free to post as often as you like, you know we welcome third party tools here.

I completely disagree with this - its stability is abysmal at best and one of its weakest point.

It has progressively become worse over time.
(Yes I am using windows) and I am aware that the
culprit is enigma.jar - or is it...........  I can easily
reproduce a crash each bloody time, even after hitting the save button a few times and the whole shit falls in shambles.

Well hopefully this card should be good for a few years of gaming - of course before 8k, 16k, and 32k monitors lol.

£1,000 ? Right - I'm sure everyone will be camping outside waiting to spend that money on a GPU

Now let's see what is the big problem with these cards in general.  The hardware part is powerful, but yet the software component does not even take advantage of anywhere near 100% of hardware.  It's expected in the industry, be it gpu or sound, nothing is fully optimised -  Look at all the previous NVIDIA cards, all the hype and specific GPU features, how many of them were really being used.

There will probably other versions, less expensive, like they did with the strix series, I mean 8GB of video memory.
Maybe those cards are overkill for 1080p gaming, but one
thing for sure, the game companies need to u their shit!
Some games are visually stunning but the gameplay / story and longevity utter shit.

It looks like a lot of those issues stem from the fact that ENIGMA uses C++. For example, the first issue is you have some variable named delete which is an operator and therefore a reserved keyword in C++.

Not really an issue, he can use _delete