ENIGMA Development Environment

Still see a lot of contradiction - you are saying I CAN sell my games and nobody would sue me if I don't include my source code, and by source code you mean including the whole EGM file and possibly all its unencrypted resources with it.  Then you go saying I can sell my free stuff ?  Still confused.  Then you are talking about possibility of people selling ENIGMA which obviously you don't want.  The issue and question I have is selling my GAME, not enigma code or modified code.  The games I want to compile with ENIGMA is with an unmodified ENIGMA version.  So if I read your post currently we have to include the source code to everything we publish using ENIGMA.
But previous I was told otherwise.  Again, which is which.  Now you can clearly see people turning away from using the product and to be honest, paying $299 for the YYC compiler sounds more and more attractive   (lol, nah fuck YoYo!).

So worse case scenario, if I make my game and I net $1 million, and I get caught, I will have to forfeit my $1 million and the developers will split the money !  Kinda defeats open source if you ask me, you should have opened a company and made a commercial product instead, people would have gladly paid money for a complete working ENIGMA, anything would be best than being allegedly ripped off by a company selling an inflated product they keep regressing with deprecated functions and severe issues that go unaddressed !

@Rezolyze:  I know how you feel and honestly can't blame you.  Good luck on your quest  to find something, if you do please let me know   Wherever you go if it is open source you will have the same issues ! Honestly I shopped around and there are other alternatives, but nowhere near newbie friendly than GayMaker & ENIGMA, they have a much steeper learning curve.

YoYo raelly were on to something BIG but instead they decided to fuck it up and now they are trying to fix the mess they created.

I found ENIGMA attractive for:

1) Compiler, so speedy games and minimal size
2) Flexible, offering useful functions that were removed by YYG ! Including external resource handling, directshow support, etc...

However not at the cost of having to provide my source code and resources files no fucking way.

It was NEVER a question of money.  Perhaps ENIGMA
can resolve this whole license shit debate going nowhere and consider going commercial.  I would gladly pay for a product like ENIGMA.  I know that ENIGMA devs would not rip people off charging $300 for a fucking compiler would be part of the program, and they can charge for exports and other stuff.
GLADLY I would pay, and many would too, and it would resolve the whole problems around licensing !
You'd still have to include a license mentioning ENIGMA and its respective IP holders, the same way you have to with GMS, but at least you would not have to include source of your games with your compiles.......

No current license proposed will satisfy BOTH parties, impossible.....They all have pros and cons, and either benefit mostly the user OR ENIGMA dev......there is no balance that protects 50 / 50.  So maybe this whole discussion on license is a waste of time

From what I understand the biggest issue with ENIGMA is compatibility, it is not 100% compatible to GMS.  However, can one assume it is functional enough to make a full game from scratch?

I am all extremely confused with all of this.
When I first came here I was told that I could sell my games, I seem to get mixed responses.  I was told I could use enigma and sell my games but I would have to tell people I used ENIGMA.  So far so good.  I even asked once if I have to include the source code (EGM) file with my game, and was told no.

Which is it ?  Currently as it stands, can I sell my ENIGMA games that I made or will I be facing a multi million $ lawsuit ?

If that is the case then what is even the point of using enigma   The whole point to use ENIGMA from start was better performance, smaller files and windows functions needed for specific projects.  But on the other hand if people cannot sell what they make in ENIGMA then it's a done deal, nobody is going to use ENIGMA - same if required to publish source code (Freeware or commercial).

With GayMakerStudio you do have to include the respective licenses and Yoyo's runner which is YYG's IP, and sadly people will know you used GayMaker to make your games, but at least you don't have to publish source code, so it comes at the cost of all the other issues you will get with GMS......So basically this is very discouraging....the only thing left is to quit using GMS and ENIGMA !

Publishing a source code for a stick figure game or catch the clown is not an issue, but those of us who know fuck all about coding and don't have the time/means to learn programming from the grounds up and who want to make a 100% original game with everything custom made, surely don't want to have to publish source code, which would have far bigger value than a shitty game's source code.  It would be counterproductive to being able to SELL a game for profit and at the same time provide its source code along with the tool used to create it ! lol.

License or not, most people don't read or give a shit

Question is, if a person sells an ENIGMA made game, what are they subject to ?
They get sued ,but who sues them ?

So being sued for several millions and doing jail time..... No thanks !

So ENIGMA will never gain popularity and might as well call it dead.

I think it is important to mention on the main page, that 1) you CANNOT sell your games made in ENIGMA 2) You have to release its source code......) As most people won't read the encyclopedia they call license, so why not make it easy for those who don't know what GPL, etc.  works.  Tell them straight forward that they can't sell and have to publish source.

Isn't that the same as 'GayStudio', as you've called it?

LOL.

RobertStudio ?

Perhaps try to make your main player skinnier .... He looks like the bully and not the victim... Looks more like a bully with a pink shirt.

here is a crazy idea, make him skinny and add some special scattered powerups in the game that add abilities to the player (making him fatter, stronger, weapons, etc.)

It's probably already happening, I have no idea how people make cracks for software or w/e or specifically the one for master. But yeah, it's probably better they don't bother wasting their time with it, hell even Java has security flaws, and you can torrent Windows 8 right now too along with a fuckton of other software. I usually torrent old PC games.

They make crack for software by understanding the flawed DRM companies used - to some point I think some companies want this to happen, pretend they give a flying shit but really they know their shit will be pirated and know that not all piracy is a missed sale in fact most isn't, but it is publicity some companies look for as there are cases where they convert....Although honestly I  doubt anybody would convert to their shitty software anyway.
Did you follow all the topics on GM 1.3 ? They added a feature enabled by default now causing alleged significant slowdown to android and ios ports as reported on their forum...seems the more shit they add the more they break then you never hear from them again....

ALL software can be cracked I mean if they can crack hardware dongles they can crack some lame attempt at the DRM YYG uses, the same one that fucked many legit paying customers in the ass as you know....

Although to be honest I have to ask myself why the HELL would anybody even bother cracking GM MASTER collection.

As far as Windows being pirated.....it has always been and always will and M$ wants it to be.......Sometimes I think companies purposely leave flaws / cracks in their software for whatever reason.

I wonder how people don't just steal their technology and rewrite it with new variable names, making it look more convincing in other ways, etc

lol.

Because they rather be slaves to YoYo !