ENIGMA Development Environment

Just saw this on the Yoyo site.

They just hammered the nails harder into the ENIGMA coffin.

Sorry mate but this is where I completely disagree.   Remember YoYo is not a charitable organisation, there might be strategic reasons for doing so now.  In my opinion Studio 2 is or whatever it will be called (major release, codename GMNEXT) is going to be released in a near future. I'd say probably Q2'2015.

This is where ENIGMA must take a different approach. I.E. - actually work for starters AND have features that are not possible in GM:S.

ENIGMA is geared at a different perhaps more advanced market, guinea pigs, people who like to code or want to learn, people who don't mind work around, etc.  ENIGMA does work it just has certain things to address, and it's not because of bad faith they are not addressed but lack of developers and time.

GMS is quite suffice for the type of games most people make.   ENIGMA still has advantages:

* GM Standard (FREE) has a "MADE WITH GM" splash screen with a delay.  ENIGMA does not.

* ENIGMA compiles, GMS Standard uses a runner.  So ENIGMA has potential to be a speed advantage!

* ENIGMA supports most deprecated functions that YYG kindly removed from people for ridiculous reasons.  Some of these functions can be used to make advanced applications and games (video functions, external loading, etc.)

* Lot of the stuff non working in ENIGMA can be worked around, (moderate to advanced).

* ENIGMA was never meant to compete with another product.

So they can make GMS Pro *FREE* tomorrow and it won't prevent me from using ENIGMA, why ? Because GMS lacks functions I need.   Functions that were present when I parted with my money and actually purchase their product.

and that there is now the option of buying Pro+exports that was not there before.

Indeed, you need to upgrade to Pro first before buying an export.

Have you confirmed that free still has the stuff that used to be registered-only? Particles, pathfinding, 3D, etc. Because that would put the current situation price-wise as better than pre-Yoyo IMO.

Basically there is no more FREE version anymore, they removed it.  They instead made the Standard version FREE, and only modification done was to add the splash screen "made with GM".  They did not touch anything else.  So whatever GMS: Standard had before, it still has now.

I've never used standard or free versions before, I went from 8.1 Pro to GMS: Pro + HTML5.  I believe the standard did have the particles and all the other features, as they are specific to the GMS Studio set, the differences between all versions of studio can be found here:
https://www.yoyogames.com/studio

So I don't see any reason why they would remove particles or path finding or other features since they were already part of standard.

http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=626244

Yoyo has removed the resource-limited free version, made Standard free, added a made-with-GM splash screen,

The splash screen was always there for free members.

So now it's basically like it was in ye goode olde dayes, but $100 instead of $15-$25, and with more features in the free version. And the ability to buy exports to other platforms.

You cannot do so with the free/standard version.  Only the PRO version supports export updates.  Example you cannot use the now FREE version and buy the Android plugin.  You still need the PRO.

Still a good move from YYG, for people getting started and all.  The made with GM Studio splash still remains of course, as it was always there before, but now they removed the limited resources.

The now free version has everything minus the following:

* Texture Management
* Multiple Configurations
* Team Features
* Developer Services Portal (DSP)
* Mobile Testing (Android)
* Windows App Export
* Exports (Android, IOS, YYC etc.) (ability to purchase them)

Josh, still waiting on that parser..

What's this new parser people keep talking about?  What will it offer more (or less ) ?

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OR you can mention that your game was made with the ENIGMA engine (far more appealing and professional to read) but have to link the enigma's site and open your legs and arse crack and allow people people to use your source code, sell it, rip your hard work / resources and shit.

This has been said a million times, but I guess I have to say it a million more - You are not obliged by any law to release the source. The license says that you have to, yes, but WE (the ENIGMA team) are the ones who enforce it. If we don't care whether you release it or not, then you don't have to release it. And we couldn't really sue you for millions even if we wanted you to release the source, because all you would have to do in that case is actually release it. Like we couldn't sue you for "damages" as ENIGMA is free - the fact that you sold a game and didn't release the source didn't cost us anything. So even if did try to somehow sue for money, then the first thing we could ask is for you to release the source, which in most cases you probably would.

Long story short - Sell your games, keep the source. Nothing of any significance will happen because of that.

Thanks Harri, it's all clear now   I promise you though, should I make a significant amount of money say maybe $10 millions or more, I'll certainly send a generous donation. and I might even send something to YYG as well since without YYG, I would probably never have found out about ENIGMA lol!

No but if someone took ENIGMA's source code and profited from it we could sue for punitive damages.

True, but I wouldn't and most people wouldn't, and it would be dumb.  If a person has skill and knowledge they'd build a new engine from the grounds up, and make something actually that can be sold.

The guy who made flappy pixels was allegedly earning $50k daily, who knows what amount he could have made had he not been overwhelmed by money and his absolutely retarded mistake from ripping off something that anybody can draw in 5 minutes.  So yeah, shame indeed.   There's lots of money for the taking, and APPARENTLY it doesn't take much skill Just make a game addictive enough for people to play and have at least 1 million of the 7 billion active internet users pay you $1, and you're set

hmmm the crappiest are the ones that go viral quick and earn the most.

Stuff that. Josh can try and sue my for the $1.50 I have in the bank if I make anything commercial with ENIGMA

He is working for a fortune 500 and rich now, so yeah, he's got connection, don't worry he'll find the money 

You have a choice:
Either use GMS to make games but then you still have to include the fact that you used a game maker to make your game and the kiddie YoYoRunner that belongs to YYG, bla bla bla .......

OR you can mention that your game was made with the ENIGMA engine (far more appealing and professional to read) but have to link the enigma's site and open your legs and arse crack and allow people people to use your source code, sell it, rip your hard work / resources and shit.

Tough choice.......

I'd go for ENIGMA, hoping one day this Godforsaken license will be amended one of these light years.

BTW you are allowed to profit from your ENIGMA creations and if worse comes to worse and you earn $10 million you can bribe Josh and Robert, nobody wants to go to court, settle off court and bake them some home made apple pie and a mug of cold beer along with a suit case with a couple of 100k's and you'll be fine ! 

Hehe! And take care of CTRL ALT & DEL while we are there

The awesome thing about DX11 is that you don't have to handle lost devices. The crap thing about DX11 is that you have to handle every single thing with a shader.

Yeah but not everyone has a DX11 card.  let alone DX10 card.  and you do want your game to run on as many systems as possible.