ENIGMA Development Environment

Wow, very nicely put, indeed, thinking ahead for the future and wanting something solid.  Since I am not much into the technical stuff regarding all the jargon / licensing I am limited in capacity to reply or debate on that topic, however I could add this.  The said "good faith" of people should be disregarded when dealing with such an important matter.  It's like 2 parties not putting things on paper (contract) on the basis they are best friends and know each other.   That would be bad business.  Everything should be written and set in stone once and for all to avoid any holes or any problems in the future.

You make a good point about user code linked to the engine, etc.  If I as a user, decide to use this it's not to make open source games and apps    Of course some of the stuff I want to produce is free but some I wish to eventually make commercial and make a few bucks   It was mentioned that the current developers have good will and would not and have not done this and that, but we cannot rely on that, I think things need to be CLEAR and in WRITING, any legal written agreement is binding and protects all parties involved.

As far as the developer worse comes to worse,a developer could have the option to simply remove said games and stop distribution if they refuse to comply. BUT again, that could be problematic for instant viral hits !

As far as your comment on YoYo, well they do have some requirements, mentioning of their "amazing" runner and IP holder. and probably all the rest that is used along with it right since FFMPEG and others are bundled too.  They still use FFMPEG right ?   

Also you made great points about what will happen to ENIGMA 5 to 10 years from now and reaching out to developers to get their agreement.  That is another issue and even better argument of why something needs to be done quick when it's still time and once and for all.   I'd love to think that in 10 years from now ENIGMA will still exist, but one has to question if the personal computer will still exist as we know it, perhaps ENIGMA and all of that will be "legacy", much like the famous VIC-20, Commodore 64, AMIGA, ATARI, etc.   Am I skeptic that ENIGMA will remain a free open source project in 10 years ? well, I am skeptic about lot of things, I think we are headed for a major shift / change so who knows.

As far as YoYoGames, 5-10 years from now, they will probably be covered, as GameMaker will probably cost $4000, and they will have hundreds, maybe thousands of exports, will have dropped support for windows after their 600th function deprecation, etc.

So yeah, that aside, let's assume that ENIGMA will pace with future technology and grow, I think we must have something solid to cover everyone's ass!

I was not aware of all of this before, as I said, not too familiar with all the jargon and open source licensing stuff, and some people reading might also hold back on using ENIGMA for these reasons.   If I decide to spend resources, time to build a UNIQUE original game with 100% made content be it sprites, sound, music, etc, I would certainly not want to have to publish the source code of my game for others to steal!

Yet if I continued to use Game Maker Studio  and buying new revisions I would be a hypocrite, supporting a company that clearly has major disregard towards windows developers, as nicely put by some people in the community!  I mean a company that instead of fixing what needs to be fixed says "fuck it, let's remove said functions instead", sorry but why would a paid customer like myself support this   I think I found a new name for their product.  GameDeprecation Studio (no royalty fees required, use freely ! ), that should be the name of their next revision of game maker.
Sorry, back on topic!

So my faith and confidence is in ENIGMA right now,
and thinking present, everyone needs to be covered and sure there will be a general agreement eventually.

Once the time comes that the devs grow some white (or gray) hairs and cannot continue working on project, then hopefully others will pick up and should that happen, things will be already set in stone.

If not mistaken there was some modification lately that requires you to use the latest enigma.jar
You have to download it there:
http://enigma-dev.org/docs/Wiki/Install:Extra_Packages

You will find the latest jars there to download and
save to the respective folders:
lateralgm.jar goes in .\enigma-dev
and
enigma.jar goes in .\enigma-dev\plugins

Perhaps this has to do with:
http://enigma-dev.org/tracker/index.php?id=661

Vis: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67740160/BlueButItShouldBeRed.jpg

As the filename says - what should be red is in blue. And yes, other projects display this issue (for example, Catch the Clown).

Using Linux, latest LGM and ENIGMA as according to the repos, OpenGL 3.

There is just one bit of a problem.  In order for ENIGMA to support android export, they will have to add some restrictions / remove some functions to abide by different app store rules (mostly security issues).  This is why YoYo claimed to have removed several functionality from GM.   The problem is that they also removed those functions from windows (registry, folder creating, some file functions, etc.)

I hope ENIGMA won't do the same mistake as YoYo, and will only restrict what needs to be restricted for individual export options, leaving all those functionality for windows intact.

I don't expect to see android support any time soon they probably have other priorities for now like new compiler and fixes.  But definitely if they DO add other export options, they will have to add different sets of rules and restrictions on each individual export and not the windows export otherwise !  It's one thing to offer export to android, but they have to meet some requirements to abide by app stores.  I am not 100% sure on the technicalities but in terms of signature, security, etc. 

I am sure they will do the right thing when the time comes.  They do try as much as possible to do things right in many areas where YoYo has done wrong.
Probably the biggest benefit you will see here, is that things are compiled, and you are not being charged $299 for it.  There are other benefits to using ENIGMA as well,as you can use C++, GML & Enigma's own set of commands in your games.....

Nice, I haven't gotten to playing the game yet, but it's a real change from some of the stuff I've seen made

Those "teachers" sure look far more threatening than the regular bullies 

Nice special effects on the text / fade-in/out of the level ID, how do you that ? is it all pre-rendered ?

Tried it, runs smoothly indeed, but there is a lot of bugs.  Sometimes when you die and are crushed by a pipe or you die and scroll off screen, when the level restart, the player is invisible, you have to exit the game and restart.  Thanks, will take a look at the source later.

Any updates ? news on the issue ?

Ok, running some tests, I could reproduce the crash when game is run from the IDE.

When building / compiling the EXE, the EXE runs fine, no crash.  I hope this bit of info can help.
I just placed a controller object in an empty room and
added the code in the create event.

This is a PNG with alpha transparency, I will run other tests.

Well if you check my last post on the previous page, you'll see I did just that. =) i 'm an ex-christian, do you think I actually want to continue making religious games at this point? =P

Well they do still make religious movies and they are hits.... Putting them in games might be tricky but doable although the game has to be done in a way as to not offend other religions or use it as a propaganda tool.  I know some very good games that included religious elements and did well, scenes in church, confession, etc. 

Also I am thinking of making a game eventually hopefully in this lifetime or another   Controversial in nature.  Is hell eternal or is there redemption ? Hell has an escape, it would be up to the player to find it through platform gaming, puzzle elements, dialog, strategy, action and much more.  Of course this is an example of a game, and there would not be ANY reference to any particular religion, it will be up to the player.  along with big twists.

Besides you really don't have to justify yourself to anybody, nobody is forcing people to play a game, people have free will.  I will play games that have religious elements depending on the story and where it's going.  I will NOT play games that mocks, offends,
degrades, or get you to worship another religion / sell you / convert you, etc.Those are not games but propaganda tools There's enough of that shit on fucking TV hosted by charlatants who are filthy rich living in mansions with people's money ! 

So how long do you think it will take you to finish this game of yours ? What do you expect the game play will be in hours ? (short game ? Long game? ) Difficulty level ?