ENIGMA Development Environment

I don't mind Windows 8.1 really, they just yeah, clearly fucked up. I mainly miss glass (for some odd reason they kept it only for the taskbar) and the classic start menu which is rumored to come back anyway, other than that I will be satisfied. I like the more simplistic look of the common controls, but they are just wayyyy tooo simplistic, it's damn near impossible to tell when I've clicked on the "Show Desktop" next to the clock. Buttons and shit definitely look better, but scrollbars, omfg scrollbars have gotten 1000x worse I can't even see the fuckers half the time.

Uh yeah you kinda summed it up there it SUCKS

BTW, has anybody gotten to testing Win8 with games yet ? How does it perform compared to Win7 ?

Oh yeah I have one small gripe against Google, and many might agree....... They totally fucked up with YouTube. (Google+) and YouTube.  They should have just left YT the way it was because now it's highly ret*.

Wow nice debate   Off topic indeed, but I read something and feel I should step in and add my 2 cents.

First, I think saying that the simplicity of GM and the likes are reasons why there are more sloppy games is not entirely true in my opinion.  Sure, like there will be more of them made with a fast engine than a sloppy game written in several tens and thousands lines of C++

The reason for sloppy ass games in GM is not really due to its simplicity and speed really, who said GM was simple? It can be as complex as you want it.  There are some very advanced stuff you can do with GML and most people don't even use a fraction of its capacity. 

That said, I think the biggest reason people make sloppy games is lack of skill.  Skill goes far beyond the coding part but the  content.

You can be a good coder, but if you lack creativity and all the areas that make a good game you are useless.   If you can't draw sprites, design graphics, build your own unique content to your game, then you are stuck ripping other people's gfx or using stuff you find online or copying the same fucking clones of games.  Some people lack the skill and resources to make good content for a game and/or don't have the necessary software or know that there are many free  software out there,but still without skill you go nowhere.

So you can give anybody the fastest engine and easiest to learn language, if the person does not have the skill and foundation, forget it.  You can have all the materials but if you don't have the right designer and planner you go nowhere and at that point you just do some random shit.

Here's an example of such concept.....

FPS Creator.  How more easier can you get in making your own 3D FPS right ? just clicking prefabs and building levels........Or 3D GameMaker, another
ready made pre-fab game creation just click and build type.  Well people still make shitty games with those even though not a single line of code is necessary, again, going back to the same arguments as above, lack of skill.

True that YYS has some limitations and they removed raped some windows function and some of the stuff they do is sloppy at best, BUT.....with people the right skill/talents they could make really good games, mind you not optimal performance/speed, and there are limits, but still people could do far FAR better with GM than the utter shit that it's currently made.

So provide someone with an engine and full turn key approach to game making, they still will not be able to making anything half decent without skill.

Same for someone starting from scratch using coding.

And BTW, using the slower approach has not stopped people from making really REALLY bad games, proof is all out there.....and there are bucket full of games that are really shit that were not made with GM or any similar game engine

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents

wow TKG thanks for sharing, looks like YYG is doing a good job improving the quality of GameMaker end products

....and it's because of stuff like that that they gained the reputation they have  ! a kiddie tool to make games even a 5 year old would be bored of    Also maybe people don't have the right tools to build game graphics and rely too much on MS-Paint not knowing there are many great freeware and some inexpensive shareware to get  the job done.

BTW there is a contest going on who guesses which function will be deprecated next.

So TKG, did you find the secret code ? I'm sure you were anxious to find out the surprise at the end of the game and what you had won! Please do share !   I'm sure he's not getting much sleep figuring it out

Personally I don't mind ENIGMA being bigger, I mean most of us have big software on our computers, so a couple more MBs won't really harm

I think keeping compiled EXEs as small as possible is preferred, and is done quite well with ENIGMA.  With GameMakerStudio YYC even an empty project takes several MBs, how pathetic!

Of course 25MB+/- more for an EXE with OpenCV that can be significant for some, and its use would really have to be warranted, such as for big games that make good enough usage. 

I've noticed that when switching between full screen and windows (F4) causes the screen to blank out.

Example, if I am playing a game in fulls screen, hit F4, it becomes a window but everything onscreen is blank,
hitting F4 again to full screen and screen is still blank.

yes I have unchecked to pause if out of focus box

That was using the standard runner, I haven't installed the Mast Collection crack yet on my new PC.

Hmm impressive still, considering heuristics would have every reason to pick up some suspicious stuff from their runner.....back in gm6/7/8 and I'm sure even earlier versions of GMS they returned many false positives.  So I guess really there is no reason for the YYC version to have any FP, although
it's worth a try. would be interesting  if the YYC
version had the same false positive or more.