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Reply #45 Posted on: February 19, 2014, 10:38:53 pm
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Hey guys just so you know this game is going to have nothing to do with any religion so if my games in the past have turned you off because it had religious content, I'm informing you, just to be clear, this game is actually from an evolutionist's perspective, as I am having mixed feelings on whether I should still believe in god.

I am open minded too, a game is a game, a movie is a movie, personally I am the opposite, with all the shit happening lately world wide, I would not be surprised if even the atheists start believing.  But in any case religion is a personal thing, to each their own.  Having religious elements in a game is playing with fire.  There is a fine line to draw, if the game is perceived as propaganda and "selling" a religion that is bad.  Some people get offended for minor things, so personally I would leave all form of religion out of a game :D
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Reply #46 Posted on: February 19, 2014, 10:49:43 pm
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Well if you check my last post on the previous page, you'll see I did just that. =) i 'm an ex-christian, do you think I actually want to continue making religious games at this point? =P
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Reply #47 Posted on: February 20, 2014, 12:19:19 am
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Well if you check my last post on the previous page, you'll see I did just that. =) i 'm an ex-christian, do you think I actually want to continue making religious games at this point? =P

Well they do still make religious movies and they are hits.... Putting them in games might be tricky but doable although the game has to be done in a way as to not offend other religions or use it as a propaganda tool.  I know some very good games that included religious elements and did well, scenes in church, confession, etc. 

Also I am thinking of making a game eventually hopefully in this lifetime or another :P  Controversial in nature.  Is hell eternal or is there redemption ? Hell has an escape, it would be up to the player to find it through platform gaming, puzzle elements, dialog, strategy, action and much more.  Of course this is an example of a game, and there would not be ANY reference to any particular religion, it will be up to the player.  along with big twists.

Besides you really don't have to justify yourself to anybody, nobody is forcing people to play a game, people have free will.  I will play games that have religious elements depending on the story and where it's going.  I will NOT play games that mocks, offends,
degrades, or get you to worship another religion / sell you / convert you, etc.Those are not games but propaganda tools :D There's enough of that shit on fucking TV hosted by charlatants who are filthy rich living in mansions with people's money ! 

So how long do you think it will take you to finish this game of yours ? What do you expect the game play will be in hours ? (short game ? Long game? ) Difficulty level ?
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Reply #48 Posted on: February 20, 2014, 08:42:58 am
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*imagining the game to be remotely religious*
It sounds like you are still either misreading what I've been trying to communicate or you are misinterpreting my intentions. You might not be aware of this, because I don't think you joined this site until a little while after all this happened, but I've worked on several games (two of which were horror based) in the past that I advertised here, where the games had a story that was completely religious. =P Those games I canceled.

I wanted to clarify this game wasn't like that at all because a skeleton with with a glowing rib cage, eyesocets with "spiritual" looking beams of light coming out of the eyesockets, and glowing guts on the ground and brains coming out of it's head and sitting on a throne inside a dark cave at a first glance looks like a depiction of a chamber in hell, which hell is religious shit, not at all what this game is after. =P I already explained in depth this is far from anything to do with a damn religion. If it was too much to read, I can't blame you. =)

The story I posted at the bottom of page one in this topic is the new story, and it is a story I have been creatively coming up with and revising for about a several weeks now.

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Will it be a long game?
Yes.

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demo gameplay duration?
The demo will be very short compared to the full version. 45 minutes to beat it if you suck at the puzzles worst case scenerio.

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full version gameplay duration?
The full vsrsion gameplay should take a bare minimum of 5 hours to complete, due to difficulty level and the actually duration and amount of puzzles, story, environments to explore, books to read (A lot of the pages ripped out or smudged/wet I'm not writing multiple full length chapters books for one game =P ).

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demo estimated release date?
At the rate I'm going the game will have an unofficial demo ready in a few months.

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full version estimated release date?
The full version should take a year starting now to complete if I'm lucky, but it will more likely take nearly 2-3 years, these estimations are more like guesstimations so I really don't know for certain how long all this should take, but the timeline I gave for how long it will take before release (both the demo and full) might not be completely accurate but we'll see.
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Reply #49 Posted on: February 20, 2014, 02:17:18 pm
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It sounds like you are still either misreading what I've been trying to communicate or you are misinterpreting my intentions. You might
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the past that I advertised here, where the games had a story that was completely religious. =P Those games I canceled.

Don't worry I read and understood you from the start, and no I was not aware of your other games as I joined recently.  I knew you from the GMC, but was not aware of those games. 

The point I was trying to make, was referring to general examples and not your game or yourself, since religion was mentioned, I thought I would add my 2 cents.

Content in games and movies can be subjective.  Some people can find religious elements in places that were not meant to be or that have none.

To me, a game would be just a game, to some the game would be interpreted differently.  To each their own.

If I were to make a game or movie where I would feel it would be of sensitive nature, I would place the respective warnings, and from there, it's up to people to decide.  Having worked such industries, behind the scenes, I know for a FACT that people will always break your film or game to pieces and interpret things their way etc.  Having worked with public before I know that and so be it.  If I were to make a game of a blue square chasing a red square, just an innocent game, and made it available to the masses, I am sure that I would get bashed along the way and that some people would be offended and associate the colors of the squares to gangs or religion or the harming of squares ! LOL.

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throne inside a dark cave at a first glance looks like a depiction of a chamber in hell, which hell is religious shit, not at all what this game is after.

Hell is open to several interpretations.  Some think of it as a physical place, some think of it as a state of mind / state of being.
With all the shit happening in today's world, I do think hell does fucking exist and it's on earth :D  Or hell could be under the crust of earth, we are just at the surface above. ;)  That is an example of individual interpretations. 

Keep in mind religion is man made, and "HELL" is not a religion actually, and not limited to one specific religion. 

BTW, you would be surprised at some of the shit I have seen in my days (horror films) and all the violence / movies / games I played/watched, and I turned out ok.  It's all about the mind and when people can make a difference between fiction and real world.

About your past horror games which I was not aware of, did people complain or were offended ?  Now you almost want me to try those games to see for myself :D  I am sure if you were to make a game with pink flamingos someone out there would be offended.  That's what happens when you deal with the general public, you will always have negatives no matter what.

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=P I already explained in depth this is far from anything to do with a damn religion. If it was too much to read, I can't blame you. =)

Read it fully understood, again.  Can't wait to play your game and give my honest opinion :) 

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demo gameplay duration?
The demo will be very short compared to the full version. 45 minutes to beat it if you suck at the puzzles worst case scenerio.

LOL ! That would be me, but I've gotten so much better. but still, I don't recall an adventure game that I could finish on my own, maybe because back then I was not as patient and got frustrated quite easily with some puzzles and being stuck :D

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full version gameplay duration?
The full vsrsion gameplay should take a bare minimum of 5 hours to complete, due to
difficulty level and the actually duration and

5 hours minimum, that sounds good by today's standard :D

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full version estimated release date?
The full version should take a year starting now to complete if I'm lucky, but it will more likely take nearly 2-3 years,

Wow, that's about par with an actual commercial game dev time, and that is with a whole working team !   For your type of game if you worked full time on it you'd probably manage to get it done much sooner, but realistically if this is done on your spare time as a hobby, could probably take longer.

In any case good luck and hope it works out great.

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Reply #50 Posted on: February 22, 2014, 11:11:55 pm
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Thank you DarkStar for your kind words. =) I'm gonna do my best.
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