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Author Topic: Where YoYoGame Shines and where ENIGMA lacks!  (Read 4996 times)
Offline (Male) Jimmy_D
Posted on: January 17, 2014, 01:23:07 am
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First off, it's always shocking to see some people run their lip against YoYoGames and its amazing software, but even more shocking to see a bunch of numbnuts not state all the facts.

Where does Yoyogames shine and where does ENIGMA sucks donkey's penis!

At least with YYG you are getting frequent updates, which btw, you can perform from within the software !  No need to manually compile and no repository crap! A user friendly way to report bugs and prompt answers to your bug reports !  YoYoGames strives to release frequent updates, with several bug fixes and new features on a frequent basis.   At YoYoGames, the project is in constant development ......Where the bloody hell is ENIGMA going ?  As it looks more like a sinking ship run by a myriad of developers whos egos are bigger than their dicks !

A stalled project going nowhere and fading in the distance and the n00bs who quit Game Maker quickly come to realise that the competition is not all that claimed to be.  The one reason people complain of GM Studio is because they are a bunch of sorry newbies who have shitty coding skills, who are lazy and don't learn the proper way to optimise their game code.

Now let's see now........How many games were released with GM Studio, put on apps store, become popular, made money ????

Now how many were done with ENIGMA ?   

Again the same newbish argument "Oh Enigma is a compiler" boo hoo fucking hoo !!!! Cry me a goddamned river !!! Give me a break !  Most people will never really need the YoYo Compiler.  Many people have released really good games long before the YYC export, with very decent frame rates.   Now let's see now, how many export options do you have with Studio and how many do you have with ENIGMA ? Hmm???  GM:S is a user friendly software - no playing with dependencies, compiler, mangling, repository, suppositories, etc. You would really have to utterly be a complete newbie and totally suck for you to have trouble making a decent game with that software which has gone a long way !!!

ENIGMA is program that COULD HAVE been a great alternative with amazing potential, but currently it is a pile of dung !   It has so many issues, its compatibility to GM (which is supposed to be its purpose no?) is abysmal at best and it is so incomplete.  SO how the fuck can you tell some GM veteran to come over to ENIGMA and bring their project and that they would get better results.

A sinking ship, no updates, no fixes, too many issues and no sign of any new version or further development, I guess YoYoGame is a winner here ladies and gents.

So whilst the developers who rarely agree with one another keep on fighting like a bunch of ladies......and getting nothing done other than lip service and over hyping their sorry, miserable attempt at a GM altnerative, the folks at YYG keep on working hard day and night to improve and bring its product to new heights.  There is no way that ENIGMA can keep pace with GM.  You either fucking release something that works properly or you work on it and when you get something half decent you release it!  Is this shit in alpha stage or what ?

Before criticising YoYoGames, you should look at yourselves and if you wan to engage in lip service against another company, be sure to deliver the goods, work on making your product better, release frequent updates, and put your fucking differences aside ! Go get a room or something, kiss and make the fuck up and walk the talk.......

Sure ENIGMA is in some ways better, but it has a long fucking way to go to be considered over GM:S for serious game development.

At least YYG takes the time to provide a proper help, documentation built into their software, yours is incomplete !!! and online only.  Is it really that hard to transfer all of that to a damn PDF file or HLP file ?

No means to auto update the software and offer stable / beta channels I mean come on, many FREEWARE products online have an update feature.

Your software is HYPE and so incomplete and lacking.

You have developers quitting, bitching, crying, and giving lame excuses.

So whilst you blimey kids keep fighting, Game Maker Studio continues to be worked on and improved for the better.

Let's see you folks release some updates and complete your software then you can earn back your bragging rights motherfuckers.


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Offline (Male) Goombert
Reply #1 Posted on: January 17, 2014, 10:05:30 am

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What are you some kind of paid troll? YoYoGames has destroyed GM, say all you want about ENIGMA having incomplete features, it never fucking corrupted anybodies projects!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameMaker:_Studio#Digital_rights_management

All they do is add more shitty features and more shitty bugs. Everything they've added is half ass their manual is full of grammatical errors, some of it is written as if the person has no idea how the functions even work. Why? Because of YYG's lack of communication. You can take for instance the 3D editable examples section over there, they killed that, the only good post in some time is a baked shadow example for GM8 and before that a vertex buffer example by one of the staff members showing how to draw basic shapes.

They broke the extension system making it completely incompatible with older GM versions, effectively killing every major extension when they killed GM API. Some of the functions are deprecated but large sets of them will say they are, but they actually aren't, so much so that nobody knows wth to think. The new IDE for Studio is sooo god damn buggy you can't even maximize the thing right, shit glitches like fucking crazy, and is also not backwards compatible with older Studio projects, the GMK importer never works right, you can even ask TKG he sent me some of his GMK's I've imported that were broken as crazy but fine in GM8, even YYG admitted it when they removed the GMK exporter.

Then they are so bold as to even charge 800$ for the steaming pile of shit, which I have yet to see one game come out of there that actually effectively utilizes any of the new features. They were even bolder, to go and copy and paste Unity3D's website, to market the product! Think they stand a chance against real competitors like ENIGMA? Think again, because they are going to get curb stomped.
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I think it was Leonardo da Vinci who once said something along the lines of "If you build the robots, they will make games." or something to that effect.

Offline (Male) Josh @ Dreamland
Reply #2 Posted on: January 17, 2014, 10:19:08 am

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Hi there,

We are sorry you were displeased with our software. A full refund, with interest, has been issued to your account. We appreciate your business!

As part of our customer loyalty program, you may still feel free to post to our issue tracker.

Our marketing team has reviewed your complaints regarding our staff members and has issued salary cuts accordingly.

Good day, and thank you for choosing our company!
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Offline (Male) DaSpirit
Reply #3 Posted on: January 17, 2014, 10:28:57 am

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A quick check on github shows that it is not dying and it is very well alive.

Nonetheless, we appreciate your criticism. It's true that ENIGMA is not 100% compatible but it's getting there. When the time comes, we will add everything that you requested. We know what we're missing and the developers are working very hard to add everything.
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Reply #4 Posted on: January 17, 2014, 11:32:21 am
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Don't feed the trolls  ::)
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Offline (Unknown gender) time-killer-games
Reply #5 Posted on: January 17, 2014, 05:39:04 pm
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What you aren't getting is that everything YYG lacks is their fault and no excuse for it when they are making 1000s of $$ a week. What enigma lacks will be fixed in time. Understand, YYG are a business of closed-minded developers who don't listen to their customers and overprice worthless shit and all they care about is money. YYG and GM itself have been around a lot longer than enigma and the creators and contributors to enigma aren't being paid so it's no brainer there's not as much motivation for them and they have no pressing schedule. but even then it's all a matter of time before enigma will wipe GMS and YYG customers with it's ass.

I own GMS master collection and because of the amount of projects got corrupted and glitch-fucked, Really? There's many more reasons that I can easily name, too many to count as to why I never should've made such a poor investment.

Edit: just read through Robert's post all the way through and I can confirm yes he isn't joking YYG would do a lot better if they weren't completely money driven, if they weren't like how they are, they'd care more about fixing bugs before introducing new ones with features that don't work and no one uses.
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Offline (Unknown gender) time-killer-games
Reply #6 Posted on: January 17, 2014, 10:40:37 pm
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developers whos egos are bigger than their dicks !
I'm sorry to inform you that whether someone does any good at programming a game engine does not even remotely determine their penis size, whether erect or not. http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=19637.0 However the subject is socially debatable I'm sure we all know what the only answer is, while there are some methods out there to medically enlarge your cock, it is mostly hereditary or (in theory) how often you masterbate and/or have innercoarse/anals. The only person I recall you guessed right on, ISM's penis is so small you can't even see it, and there's a logical reason for that.
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