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Reply #18 Posted on: August 16, 2010, 05:40:43 pm |
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It should switch to something else. not .net.
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if you drop a cat with buttered toast strapped to its back, which side lands down? joshdreamland: our languages are based on the idea that it's going to end up FUBAR /kick retep998
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Reply #20 Posted on: August 16, 2010, 07:12:13 pm |
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I agree they should use C++, because C++ is perfect in every way.
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Reply #22 Posted on: August 16, 2010, 09:41:15 pm |
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Yeah, thats coming from someone with "Troll wins" as their avatar...
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if you drop a cat with buttered toast strapped to its back, which side lands down? joshdreamland: our languages are based on the idea that it's going to end up FUBAR /kick retep998
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Reply #24 Posted on: August 16, 2010, 10:23:17 pm |
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fixing patent laws themselves (e.g. no patents on algorithms or other ideas that anyone could come up with independently) would be even better. Or we could just eliminate copyright/patent laws altogether, since they don't do what they're supposed to (reward and thus encourage creativity), usually doing quite the opposite, and here we see a perfect example of that, where a company is spending capital to hire lawyers and fine the crap out of another company when they could just be using that capital to improve Java, which they've all but decided not to do (remember when they dropped all those developers and then postponed Java 7's release indefinitely?). For a philosophical and in-depth analysis for the reasons to get rid of copyright/patent/intellectual property, along with dismantling all the arguments I've ever heard (and some I haven't heard) for IP, Stephan Kinsella has an excellent paper, Against Intellectual Property, http://mises.org/books/against.pdf
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Reply #26 Posted on: August 17, 2010, 11:55:29 am |
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It's called a broken window fallacy. Even if we did see positive effects, we aren't seeing the positive effects that could have been had were it not for copyright.
Suppose that we drop a bomb on your house when nobody's home. This is obviously a good thing because it spurs economic activity - you have to buy a new house, which stimulates the housing market, which in turn stimulates other markets as the workers there buy new things with their newfound money. As you can see, dropping bombs on houses is a very good thing, just as copyrights are a very good thing.
Broken Window Fallacy.
Besides, even if we did try to "fix" IP, as explained in the article I linked, there's no evidence to support the idea that it would be positive at all, and plenty to support that it would be negative, not to mention philosophically inconsistent/unsound.
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Reply #27 Posted on: August 17, 2010, 12:30:38 pm |
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Copyright is not facilitating ridiculous litigation wars, whereas patents are. My original point was that we should at least change the patent laws. If abolishing patents is the way to fix IP, great. However, There is no evidence to support the idea that abolishing copyright would be positive or negative, nor is there evidence that changing IP laws would be positive or negative. There is only speculation.
No matter which is the best solution in the end, extremist abolition of systems that have, however poorly, functioned for hundreds or thousands of years, is never a good idea. There is always another point of view, and there are always more effective compromises than abruptly throwing everything out for the benefit of an untested system.
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Reply #28 Posted on: August 17, 2010, 12:37:29 pm |
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If the founders of our country thought like you just did, we'd be sipping expensive tea right now instead of arguing about changing systems being an undue risk.
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