Problems with GMS are not the only, nor should they be the main, reason to use ENIGMA. That's just sad.
Thanks for proving my point. There are many reasons for a person to want to come here. Some might not agree with the direction YYG is taking GM. Some might not agree with their handling of support and community. Some might not agree with all the functions they removed from GMS for silly reasons. Some might not agree to be allegedly ripped off $300 for a compiler, and the list goes on.
Why am I here? ENIGMA being FREE is not the main one. I already spent money several times on buying from YYG.
* They are inflexible and give excuses. Removing functions that could be useful for larger games and advanced handling. They decide on compressing your audio regardless of the format, ENIGMA handles your audio intact. ENIGMA supports video functions. You could make interactive MYST like games, interactive apps, games with cut scenes, etc. Can't bloody do that in GMS because they are too damn lazy. An $800 product, for fucksake, and when you consider that other product offer this as a standard. And don't talk to me about DLLs and extensions, all the video DLLs are crap. Look at all the video options in ENIGMA, and imagine when ENIGMA will be able to render video on 3D surfaces / Direct3D surfaces.
* ENIGMA supports many of the deprecated functions and does certain things much better and none of the folder and restrictions in GMS. Ok they have a valid reason to use this due to security and compliance with AppStore. BUT they could have made it optional for devs that are independant and don't require store com pliancy, but they are lazy! Their competitors, no problem, they are flexible and let you decide.
* ENIGMA compiles and allows C++ in your projects. ENIGMA uses an extension system, allows you to further optimize your games by removing what you don't need, making your final EXE smaller than a YYC'ed EXE. $300 for a compiler and they don't even have their optimizations done in that regards. It's amazing all the open source they use in GMS
ENIGMA also is open source and it's aim was to do things better, unfortunately apparently some devs fucked off and left for whatever reason, leaving the project understaffed ! At least it's functional enough to do lots, and still being fixed ! To be fair, given observations I am skeptic that ENIGMA will fix everything need fixing in a timely manner and make it 100% GMS comaptible.....But I don't think that was their aim and I don't think they meant for things to slow down or things to get broken.
But having both products installed now I can clearly see where ENIGMA shines and what it does better.
I see lot of potential and sticking around to find out.
Now question is,what are YOU doing here? You seem entirely happy with YYG and GMS !
I don't think ENIGMA was started by happy YYG customers
Are ALL ENIGMA users disgruntled YYG customers ? No. Some might use ENIGMA as an alternative to paying for the GMS Pro version + $300 for the compiler but are otherwise very happy with GMS.
Personally I don't agree with everything in ENIGMA, and one thing I dislike is certain functions visible in plain view that are broken and not implemented yet, which might mislead people.......I already mentioned which ones (Studio extension, physics in IDE, etc.etc.etc.) but I didn't pay $800 for ENIGMA either
It's funny you should call me a conspiracy theorist LMAO because I was just pondering to myself on more than one occasion, of the possibility you might actually be
1) Taking the piss out.....and maybe this is all a wind-up or ! You do adore ENIGMA even helped develop it !
2) Sent by YYG
3) You are using the new CCrane Co. portable Time Travel, went into the future and saw that YYG made huge progress and ENIGMA was dead and abandoned and broken to smithereens LOL!
Humour me !
Is this for real ? I don't like the way YYG handles things, you don't see me hanging there do you ?
You on the other hand are doing a good job defending YYG and how amazing GMS is and how ENIGMA does not live up, so what the bloody hell are you doing here
ENIGMA is not perfect, far from it, and yes it is broken in some places. But it does have some advantages, you don't seem to be optimistic or convinced, so why bother. I'm here asking tons of question about ENIGMA, reporting things that don't work and trying to learn something new and getting into C++, etc. The minute YYG is discussed people suddenly come and defend it.
Conspiracy ? Nah, I know for a fact some companies send plants on forum, I have proof of that and know people, and won't mention names.
One major difference you will see here, is freedom of expression. You won't see devs censor your post, edit / delete or ban you if you don't agree with them.
The least I could say for GMC. Some of the most helpful people here were banned for ridiculous reasons, and some people there get away with shit and left intact, but they agree with YYG and praise it.
That said, given the type of games people make on the GMC I can't blame them for loving GMS ! To be honest for most people GMS is great and by all means they should not bother with anything else. Please refer to the topic there called "best game in the whole world." You don't see people who make myst like games, complex 3D games, complex 2D games LARGE games, really raising the bar, brag on the GMC. Those who really make exceptional games in GMS are rare. Though I've seen amazing shit done in GMS the devs admitted how painful it was and how poor performance it was, and some moved on to better engines. So this all goes back to the original topic I made about the award thing. The other finalists GM was listed with, are advanced game engines, powerful....Sorry to say but as much as GMS has its potential for some things, it can't even COMPETE or close to compete with the other engines they are paired with.
Long life to ENIGMA, they listen to the community and they respect what people have to say, good or bad about ENIGMA.
@Robert: When you say you actually hate ENIGMA, can this be translated to:
...I thought ENIGMA was going to blow GMS out of the water but fell flat on its arse and thus we failed .....
Or is it that you hate that it has not gathered as much support / interest than originally anticipated ?
Having tried other GM wannabe and clones, I think honestly that ENIGMA is best I used compared to the garbage out there.
I think I read on some blog or even here some say that YYG seems to be focusing more on console and mobile ports now, distancing themselves further away from window, deprecating functions without even consideration for us motherfuckers who paid for the program solely to do windows. FUNNY that in competing products that do windows + multiple exports that they don't sacrifice windows users in the process. Why the FUCk should YYG be different ?
and then people wonder why the hate towards YYG ?
Is it true still that GMS uses FFMPEG and each time you call a sound a new instance of FFMPEG opens ? I recall reading about people complaining of their windows tray being flooded with FFMPEG icons, and YYG uttering "oh that's windows fault not ours...."
It's funny but having used other RAD tools before, that supported audio/video etc, none exhibited that MESS. To people who still use GMS is this still an issue? FFMPEG for audio LOL and they have no video functions,wow, where is the logic in that !
They now decided to change how graphics are handled......THEY decided. Apparently to increase performance lol ironicly, it had the opposite effect, and to this day even with fixes still has complaints
So what now, are they gonna tell people to throw their old tablets, phones, devices, throw away their iphones and get the iPhone5, or get the Samsung Galaxy S5 to run games at decent rates ? Seems every time they try to fix something the break it further. (kinda sounds familiar (evil grin) but anyhow.). but at least here, when that happens it gets fixed in a rather timely manner....not the case there. Now they are moving towards console ports.
So great now those mario clones, game rips, pixel arts, stick figure games will be console compatible and to a next gen console near you. I'm sure people will be excited to pay for that !