Josh @ Dreamland
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Posted on: December 22, 2009, 01:03:59 pm |
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Prince of all Goldfish
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Joined: Feb 2008
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I've had to purchase two new hats today just to have something to eat each time I was dead wrong about something. It's mildly annoying, but don't worry.
That code I showed yesterday is nearly working; it ignores the second specialization for a reason I am now looking into.
Yoyo has evidently released a new version of GM, which I won't be trying number one because I hate their EULAs and number two because I'm on Ubuntu. If someone would be so kind as to provide me with a list of new functions, though, I'll see to it that they are on my todo list.
Also, serp has R3 compiling R4 correctly and is optimizing that. I rewrote var again and to my dismay, it will be very difficult to get string() working as a constructor to std::string rather than a function. I will at least attempt it, however.
I've been hoping to have a small (community) debug release soon, and Yoyo actually managing to make a release has only amplified that desire. Will post updates as they become relevant.
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notachair
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Reply #2 Posted on: December 22, 2009, 04:52:19 pm |
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Definitely not a chair
Joined: Feb 2008
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From the glog: Sandy, you need to work on your professionalism.
The poll that you set up on the GMC was obviously rigged/biased. Don’t even give us your bull about “giving us all the facts”, because
it’s a complete crock.
You wanted to shift the blame from you to the users, who (justifiably) criticize your idiotic actions. You wanted the easy way out,
using SoftWrap due to your laziness and incompetence. Knowing that the release date was coming close, you also knew that there were impatient kids on the GMC, who would say/do anything for
it to be released sooner; not knowing the consequences until they actually have to use it.
So now for the fun part. You set up a poll about the inclusion of SoftWrap, but instead of just making it a poll about SoftWrap, you
make it also about the release date. Pretty classic example of putting sugar on a pile of crap.
Now, knowing that you got the vote of all the hyperactive kids (instead of a professional, but we must take into consideration that
you are the farthest thing from a professional, and lack any values even coming close to resembling professionalism), you can now say
that the ease of slapping SoftWrap in Game Maker is our fault. Congratulations!
I also like how you think such a small increase in license uses will make any difference whatsoever. Three (GM7) to five (GM8),
compared to as many as you want (GM6)? Do the math. I’d also like to note that you’re a really “in-the-box” thinker, as you think that
in order to have infinite uses (without contacting YoYoGames or SoftWrap) that Mark would have to handle all the orders himself. It’s
like you have no grasp on innovation or technology at all.
Sincerely,
Wilcox
P.S. This is far from a conspiracy theory. The system Sandy set up here is no more than grade 3 manipulation. It’s just that it’s so childish that you’d never expect the owner of a company to actually use it. Oh my god it's Smarty! Your conclusion based on the results are incredible – you get 3 to 5 thousand GM downloads daily, for who knows the entire 2 1/2 year, and yet you let 800 forum visitors decide by a fraction of difference?
You’ve used this canard of a poll to justify a decision that you clearly had already made. The statement you make above would have been much more of an incentive for Game Maker users to support your decision, in spite of perceived difficulties with Softwrap.
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Josh @ Dreamland
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Reply #5 Posted on: December 22, 2009, 11:39:14 pm |
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Prince of all Goldfish
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Joined: Feb 2008
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Well, my work there was just done for me. *Digresses to avoid poisoning the well*
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"That is the single most cryptic piece of code I have ever seen." -Master PobbleWobble "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Friends of Voltaire
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Reply #6 Posted on: December 23, 2009, 06:31:00 am |
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Location: Australia Joined: Nov 2009
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bl yoyo, idiots. I've had to purchase two new hats today just to have something to eat each time I was dead wrong about something. It's mildly annoying, but don't worry. ..wut? EDIT: Constants can now be defined in their own form (rather than through the Global Game Settings). As a result they can remain visible while you are e.g. writing scripts. You can also load and save the constants to text files. ^^ Should I be asking Ism about that one? That'd come in handy :3
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PC: Core i7-2600 @ 3.8ghz | 4x 4gb G.Skill RipjawZ DDR3-2000 | GTX580 | Win7 x64 Time is the greatest teacher, however it kills every single one of its pupils.
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Reply #8 Posted on: December 23, 2009, 09:41:59 am |
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My problem with Softwrap/GM7 is that I do a few Windows reinstalls per year, on my desktop and laptop. Each time, I have to ask Softwrap to give me new reinstalls. Now, I'm not using it any more than someone who is still on their first reinstall since they bought GM5.3a, but last time they refused to give me any more reinstalls. So I can't reinstall Windows any more, which as you know means that it slows down over time.
I need Enigma to carry on using something I bought. Any speedup, C++ compatibility, build mode or similar bonuses are great, but I just want to continue on using what I paid for. I don't want to pay Yoyo for another GM7 license or a GM8 license because I'm not requesting any more features or parallel usage than my original license represented.
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Josh @ Dreamland
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Reply #10 Posted on: December 23, 2009, 11:11:40 am |
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Prince of all Goldfish
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Joined: Feb 2008
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That's odd, I never thought the major allure would be price just yet. I mean, yes, it's nice to save 20 bucks, but ENIGMA doesn't have all GM's resources yet; I figured people would be more interested in the tack-on-ables.
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Reply #13 Posted on: December 23, 2009, 02:36:50 pm |
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Language implementation is interesting in its own right. Though Luda and I converse of such more than I do with Josh. But there's simply frustration in how inefficient GM is. There's no reason for it to be that way. The type system is too simple to really be called dynamic
I understand why GM can be improved. What I don't understand is why Josh and anyone else who has helped would spend their time trying to do so, when they are capable C/C++ programmers who could create what they needed without GM. What personal need motivated the project?
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