DarkAceZ
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Posted on: January 31, 2013, 07:35:33 am |
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Location: United States Joined: Dec 2011
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Why does anyone still use Windows?
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« Last Edit: February 13, 2013, 10:14:38 am by Josh @ Dreamland »
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My Goodness! Is it 4:30? I'm supposed to be having a back, sack and crack! [edit]
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Josh @ Dreamland
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Reply #2 Posted on: February 22, 2013, 10:13:14 am |
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Prince of all Goldfish
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Joined: Feb 2008
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There some Linux manual I forgot to print?
Or are you talking about man? Because man's only use is when you forget the arguments to compression programs.
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Josh @ Dreamland
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Reply #5 Posted on: February 23, 2013, 10:46:48 am |
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Prince of all Goldfish
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It hasn't applied to most distros in years. Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, SUSE... all of them have shipped with a desktop environment and loads of other pre-loaded goodies for ages. The only popular distro that doesn't is Arch, and I suppose Gentoo (if you consider it to be popular).
I think the issue is that it scares people if buttons have more than one purpose, which explains why Windows has no built-in hotkey customization or adequate window manipulation schemes. Of course, you could argue that it just tries to ship as lean as possible, but then, why is it that Ubuntu's ready to rock as soon as I log in, while I have to give Windows five minutes to finish running all its startup bullshit?
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Reply #6 Posted on: February 23, 2013, 11:28:37 am |
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It isn't that many years since there would often be one problem or another when setting a Linux system up, such as drivers and hardware, which often required users to use the command line to try and solve it, and search for solutions online just to get simple things working. For programmers, this was often not a large burden, but for regular users, it could be difficult or impossible to figure out what to do. The situation has become considerably better the last couple of years, especially due to the improved driver support, but also due to general progress in Linux desktop environments. I think Ubuntu is getting to the point where a regular user never needs to open a terminal ever or very, very rarely, which is close to the situation on Windows, where you also never or very, very rarely as a regular user have to open a terminal. Windows "just works" for regular users, and Ubuntu (and other distributions, to some degree) is getting close to have the same property. Ubuntu is probably one of the more pragmatic distributions out there, for instance in regards to the use of proprietary drivers.
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Josh @ Dreamland
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Reply #7 Posted on: February 23, 2013, 12:12:42 pm |
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Prince of all Goldfish
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It's all fun and games until someone takes the thread seriously.
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eejin
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Reply #8 Posted on: February 23, 2013, 12:20:00 pm |
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Of course, you could argue that it just tries to ship as lean as possible, but then, why is it that Ubuntu's ready to rock as soon as I log in, while I have to give Windows five minutes to finish running all its startup bullshit?
Buy a decent computer and clean your windows up. Why does my windows boot in 15 seconds and yours doesn't? You obviously did something wrong . And no I didn't spend 5000 on a decent computer. I bought a 256GB SSD for 150 euros. That with windows 8 and your computer will be done booting before you can blink your eyes. Don't expect a crappy pc to work as if you've overclocked an 3rd gen intel i7.
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Josh @ Dreamland
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Reply #9 Posted on: February 23, 2013, 01:10:46 pm |
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Prince of all Goldfish
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I enjoy my 750GB HDD. And I have a second-generation Intel i7. Not that the processor is a major need for the purpose of loading OS files into memory; that mostly falls on disk I/O. Ubuntu boots in somewhere between 15 and 20 seconds on it. Windows boots in about 30, and then spends the next five minutes learning to not be a slow whale. Meanwhile, I can be running programs on Ubuntu as soon as it is booted.
Of course, arguing for Ubuntu against Windows isn't quite as easy as arguing for other distributions, many of which are good to go in far less than ten seconds on a HDD. Arch is good about that.
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