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Contributing to ENIGMA => Function Peer Review => Topic started by: ludamad on May 08, 2008, 11:47:27 am

Title: GML?
Post by: ludamad on May 08, 2008, 11:47:27 am
ENIGMA really shouldn't call it's scripting language GML, as neither is a proper subset of either. E++ is more like it, or C.En, to show its relationship to C++. Those are just suggestions, thoughts? Oh and you can move this, but this is a comment about this forum name.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on May 08, 2008, 02:43:06 pm
It isn't actually called GML, as that'd be copyright infringement.

It is unofficially EDL, but has no official name.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: Halibutski on May 08, 2008, 07:01:22 pm
If calling it GML is copyright infringement, wouldn't making the language exactly the same also be?
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: TheExDeus on May 18, 2008, 12:35:57 pm
Language can't be copyrighted, but names can be. So it can't be called GML, but it can be exactly the same.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: RetroX on May 23, 2008, 10:58:31 am
Exactly.  For example, there are several versions of BASIC made by several people, so why not GML?
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: Quadduc on June 12, 2008, 09:12:49 am
Names cannot be copyrighted. They might be trademarked, which is something completely different.

Trademark law exists to let customers know what they buy. I do not think "GML" or "Game Maker Language" is trademarked (or can be trademarked at all), and if it is, you could still use the name, because it is purely descriptive.

Of course, confusing the users would not be good in any case. If the language is exactly the same as GML, you can call it GML. If it's different but compatible, you might say it's compatible with GML. Otherwise you might say it's similar to GML.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: IsmAvatar on August 20, 2008, 06:13:30 pm
Even if "Game Maker Language" is trademarked, you can still call it GML, because GML can be anything. It could be Gnomes Making Love, or Gnu Master License, or Gaseous Molten Lava, or Game Manipulation Logic
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: serprex on August 20, 2008, 07:09:43 pm
Ya, the issue is less about useless copyright issues and more about there being more suitable names
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on September 04, 2008, 06:44:25 pm
I still don't feel the jabbing need to piss off the, er, 'that other company' any further.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: qc.zackf on August 03, 2009, 10:07:02 am
E++ sounds good...

What does E.D.L. stand for?  Enigmas' Delicious Language?
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: RetroX on August 03, 2009, 02:50:03 pm
E++ sounds good...

What does E.D.L. stand for?  Enigmas' Delicious Language?
Enigmas'?  It would be ENIGMA's, if anything.  And either way, it's "ENIGMA Development Language".
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on August 09, 2009, 09:34:44 pm
I like the name much better when no one knows what it stands for.

I often bash GML as being Game Markup Language. <game><mmo><error="fail">Your card doesn't support this awesomeness.</error></mmo></game>

But all the closing tags are optional, of course.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: RetroX on August 09, 2009, 10:26:02 pm
Any graphics card can play a Game Maker game at a solid 2 FPS.  Any.  That is, unless the line of code checking your OS doesn't find out you're using 98.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on August 10, 2009, 10:19:50 am
nope, I have computers at my school that won't run GM at all.
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That's only because they don't have Direct3D installed, though.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: qc.zackf on August 10, 2009, 01:55:17 pm
nope, I have computers at my school that won't run GM at all.
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That's only because they don't have Direct3D installed, though.

Are they mac or linux based?
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: Josh @ Dreamland on August 10, 2009, 02:04:48 pm
They're Windows. XP, too.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: qc.zackf on August 10, 2009, 05:53:47 pm
I wonder why GM won't work on them?
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: RetroX on August 10, 2009, 08:30:15 pm
nope, I have computers at my school that won't run GM at all.
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That's only because they don't have Direct3D installed, though.
Are they mac or linux based?
This is is a stupid question.  EXE is a Windows-only format.  WINE helps, but not fully.  Especially not with Game Maker, which makes EXEs that barely run by Windows standards.
Title: Re: GML?
Post by: qc.zackf on August 10, 2009, 08:57:05 pm
Oh man, that was a stupid question...

This is is a stupid question.  EXE is a Windows-only format.  WINE helps, but not fully.  Especially not with Game Maker, which makes EXEs that barely run by Windows standards.

Heh. GM sucks doesn't it?